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Bench Polkov
SIR BENCHALOT
Steve, save your fingers! You need them for jellybeans!
0ni
Registered Rustler
Thats not what i was saying
Im saying that the majority of good deadlifters have a big gpp background and this is especially true with strongmen. At the end of the day they have the biggest pulls. I would never suggest an elite puller changes their training but for a novice to intermediate increasing the gpp base will increase the deadlift. I dont see it as strongman or powerlifting training but deadlift training
Im saying that the majority of good deadlifters have a big gpp background and this is especially true with strongmen. At the end of the day they have the biggest pulls. I would never suggest an elite puller changes their training but for a novice to intermediate increasing the gpp base will increase the deadlift. I dont see it as strongman or powerlifting training but deadlift training
0ni
Registered Rustler
Im sorry that im confrontational everyone. When i have come to a conclusion it is because i have thought about it for some time. So when someone says something to the contrary then it will bug me as they know something that i dont... So ill try to find out what this is by debating it. This is why i get angry when trivial answers such as drugs or genetics are given because its illogical. I dont have an answer as to why strongman is better than powerlifting for the deadlift but at the end of the day the strongmen have the biggest pulls and it seems no one can give a real answer to why this is so the only variable is the events training
Im not going to discuss it further
Im not going to discuss it further
wingman
Super M0derator
This thread is now about pie
Bench Polkov
SIR BENCHALOT
Strongmen:
- Are at a pro level - usually tall, long levered people (good pullers) so the majority of them are genetically pre-disposed to deadlifting but would probably not be great squatters or benchers (possibly a reason they chose strognman over PL?).
- Can hitch, use different bars, straps, suits, etc, which will cause many discrepencies in the numbers.
- At a pro-level use heroic amounts of steroids - so much so that I was told a story of an Aussie strongman who went over to the US to crack the pro-ranks but returned home when he decided that he didn't wish to use enough to keep up with the best. So you can't compare them to IPF pullers at all.
- Don't usually test their deadlifts after having done 3 massive squats as well.
- Etc, etc.
0ni
Registered Rustler
I had thought this too but then came to the conclusion that people compete in what they enjoy. Many strongmen have totals that will be very competitive in pl. but youre right they are very tall often
I was talking about regular deadlifts with an ordinary bar. Many of them have videos on youtube
Spritcha
New member
Savickas won the deadlift for reps comp at WSM2012. He is a great deadlifter. He was before he did strongman.
But he isn't the best around. As a powerlifter he was beating convincingly by Gillingham.
I don't think that shows how strongman training is better than PL training for deadlift.
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spartacus
Well-known member
Is this as bad as when Charlie Francis kept arguing with me over my opinion that (a huge) bench press was bullshit for sprinting and irrelevant.
His comeback was i would not know because i had not coached anyone under 9.8. Neverthless, I had a bit more support on the forum from others
Oni, however, is much more a fighter than i am. I simply gave up whereas Oni is like the character from the Monty Python movie searching for the 'Holy Grail' where he loses one arm, then another, then a leg and so on.
His comeback was i would not know because i had not coached anyone under 9.8. Neverthless, I had a bit more support on the forum from others
Oni, however, is much more a fighter than i am. I simply gave up whereas Oni is like the character from the Monty Python movie searching for the 'Holy Grail' where he loses one arm, then another, then a leg and so on.
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spartacus
Well-known member
No, i am not saying that. I agree 100% with you on this one. Ben's last post summarises it well too.
Just saying Oni may keep going as long as he has a brain and words to represent his tongue, further than the MPython character.
You guys have been nicer to Oni than CF was to me.
Just saying Oni may keep going as long as he has a brain and words to represent his tongue, further than the MPython character.
You guys have been nicer to Oni than CF was to me.
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The Hamburgler
Spotter Loader
ABC bar has heaps more flex than an Eleiko
Spritcha
New member
I depends on a lot of things. A Texas deadlift bar bends a lot and it's thinner, but you'd get more advantage if you are quick off the floor as the whip can really help. How much is hard to say, but obviously the more weight on the bar the greater the bend the more the advantage. For me it felt like 10-20kg easier, but for some it's almost no difference- I have heard people claim upto 20-30 difference.
