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The Hamburgler
Spotter Loader
Genetics, Leverages, probably pull more often
0ni
Registered Rustler
I'm going to find the best deadlifters in powerlifting and the best deadlifters in strongman and correlate height with max weight lifted and see what it comes up with. Correlation doesn't equal causation but it's hard to argue with a simpler answer. Powerlifting does make you a better strongman (better at every sport really...) but I don't think that in itself explains why powerlifters that went into strongman often have much larger deadlifts than powerlifters that stayed in powerlifting
Bench Polkov
SIR BENCHALOT
Lol. Be strong Steve, be strong!
vonfram88
Active member
Imagine how dead Ed Coan would be if he did strongman!
Gingerbread
New member
Rofl this thread is classic and Steve is one of the most patient men I have met.
0ni
Registered Rustler
Not really, tbh before this whole strongman shit kicked off this is what I wrote:
"How do strongmen train? They do lots of reps, lots of touch and go, often squat high and shitloads of lower back conditioning from events training. Carrying 400kg yokes, loading stones and farmers walks."
Reps, partial exericses and lower back conditioning. Then shit hit the fan because I used the fact strongmen are better deadlifters across the board than pretty much any deadlifter currently to justify it
"How do strongmen train? They do lots of reps, lots of touch and go, often squat high and shitloads of lower back conditioning from events training. Carrying 400kg yokes, loading stones and farmers walks."
Reps, partial exericses and lower back conditioning. Then shit hit the fan because I used the fact strongmen are better deadlifters across the board than pretty much any deadlifter currently to justify it
Spritcha
New member
You doth smoketh too much crack.
I chimed in when you said:
I posted a link of the Arnold classic deadlift invitational- pointing out that Ian Bell, last years winner, was indeed a powerlifter and they pretty much all are.
Your reply:
To which I pointed out you have exaggerated things here for the benefit of your argument. Gillingham adds in strongman stuff to make things interesting. Who told me this? Him!
When I said that strongman is no better than powerlifting for developing the deadlift your responses have been that gpp is essential- and since strongmen have great gpp this is somehow the ingredient that PLs are missing out on. When I pointed out that PL templates can use gpp and that the best coaches in the world are not getting their PLers to do strongman training to develop their deadlift, but rather that strongmen draw on PL training as part of their strongman training- your replies? Well- that the PLers were doing something like strongman anyway. I pointed out that the best strongmen Dlers are infact powerlifters- Misha, Savickas, Benny etc- you response that its somehow the strongman side of the picture, rather than them doing what PLers do, along with the other stuff as part of their strongman routine.
Example-
me: the Russian powerlifters lead the way, but the likes of Sorokin, Fedosienko etc are not flipping tyres etc.
Oni: but they do goodmornings!
me
smashes head on keyboard).
I chimed in when you said:
I posted a link of the Arnold classic deadlift invitational- pointing out that Ian Bell, last years winner, was indeed a powerlifter and they pretty much all are.
Your reply:
To which I pointed out you have exaggerated things here for the benefit of your argument. Gillingham adds in strongman stuff to make things interesting. Who told me this? Him!
When I said that strongman is no better than powerlifting for developing the deadlift your responses have been that gpp is essential- and since strongmen have great gpp this is somehow the ingredient that PLs are missing out on. When I pointed out that PL templates can use gpp and that the best coaches in the world are not getting their PLers to do strongman training to develop their deadlift, but rather that strongmen draw on PL training as part of their strongman training- your replies? Well- that the PLers were doing something like strongman anyway. I pointed out that the best strongmen Dlers are infact powerlifters- Misha, Savickas, Benny etc- you response that its somehow the strongman side of the picture, rather than them doing what PLers do, along with the other stuff as part of their strongman routine.
Example-
me: the Russian powerlifters lead the way, but the likes of Sorokin, Fedosienko etc are not flipping tyres etc.
Oni: but they do goodmornings!
me
smashes head on keyboard).
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Stiffy
Guest
I thinks someones enthusiasm gets the better of them.
Is the "argument" whether PLs or Strongmen are better Deadlifters, or that training for one is better at producing a better Deadlift?
They test the Deadlift in PL. They don't directly test the Deadlift in Strongman events. Therefore PL training is more dedicated to producing a better Deadlift - right.
Is the "argument" whether PLs or Strongmen are better Deadlifters, or that training for one is better at producing a better Deadlift?
They test the Deadlift in PL. They don't directly test the Deadlift in Strongman events. Therefore PL training is more dedicated to producing a better Deadlift - right.
Spritcha
New member
thats pretty much what I have been sayin.
S
Stiffy
Guest
everyone run before Poni comes back in.