Beginners program

[Christian]

Just something that came across my mind. Starting Strength advocates doing 3 sets of 5 reps because increasing the volume (no. of sets) or doing high reps will make you stall sooner. ie. it is much easier to do 5 reps of 100kg and keep adding weight rather than 8 reps of 100kg.

What are your thoughts on this?

Thanks in advance!

All rep ranges have their merits...

5x5

5x3

10x10

3x10

what ever you imagine..

For a begginer its best to not worry about things that are not required at the begginer level and concentrate on doing basics..

These programs are proven and thats all that matters.. Results.

You cant not get stronger being a begginer its all you can do, if you dont then world of warcraft is for you and not weightlifting..

 

[Christian]

Just something that came across my mind. Starting Strength advocates doing 3 sets of 5 reps because increasing the volume (no. of sets) or doing high reps will make you stall sooner. ie. it is much easier to do 5 reps of 100kg and keep adding weight rather than 8 reps of 100kg.

What are your thoughts on this?

Thanks in advance!

All rep ranges have their merits...

5x5

5x3

10x10

3x10

what ever you imagine..

For a begginer its best to not worry about things that are not required at the begginer level and concentrate on doing basics..

These programs are proven and thats all that matters.. Results.

You cant not get stronger being a begginer its all you can do, if you dont then world of warcraft is for you and not weightlifting..

 

[John555]

Thanks a lot n00bs! i ask a lot of these questions because I'm quite new to weightlifting.

That helps a lot. I'll do the program for at least 6 months and see how I go, will be doing a lot of endurance/interval running so hope this doesn't cut my recovery too much.

For PTC, is it reasonable to make those lifts at a bw of 60-64kg?

 

[John555]

Thanks a lot n00bs! i ask a lot of these questions because I'm quite new to weightlifting.

That helps a lot. I'll do the program for at least 6 months and see how I go, will be doing a lot of endurance/interval running so hope this doesn't cut my recovery too much.

For PTC, is it reasonable to make those lifts at a bw of 60-64kg?

 

[Christian]

Thanks a lot n00bs! i ask a lot of these questions because I'm quite new to weightlifting.

That helps a lot. I'll do the program for at least 6 months and see how I go, will be doing a lot of endurance/interval running so hope this doesn't cut my recovery too much.

For PTC, is it reasonable to make those lifts at a bw of 60-64kg?

Endurance/intervals?

Isnt endurance long distance?

Sorry pardon my ignorance..

Or do you mean intervals with long time to promote endurance?

Dave will be able to hlep you there more then i can... Im only the food man

 

[Christian]

Thanks a lot n00bs! i ask a lot of these questions because I'm quite new to weightlifting.

That helps a lot. I'll do the program for at least 6 months and see how I go, will be doing a lot of endurance/interval running so hope this doesn't cut my recovery too much.

For PTC, is it reasonable to make those lifts at a bw of 60-64kg?

Endurance/intervals?

Isnt endurance long distance?

Sorry pardon my ignorance..

Or do you mean intervals with long time to promote endurance?

Dave will be able to hlep you there more then i can... Im only the food man

 

[PTC]

Sorry John, what weights?

For the record, Shorty at 67kg has squatted 172.5kg, benched 120kg and deadlifted 212.5kg with under 3 years lifting.

 

[PTC]

Sorry John, what weights?

For the record, Shorty at 67kg has squatted 172.5kg, benched 120kg and deadlifted 212.5kg with under 3 years lifting.

 

[dave]

Yeah I was wondering about that as well what kind of interval work are you doing? I would assume its around round times with lower rest periods. I think you should start a thread, Chrisp (when he is on) can give you some advice too.

 

[dave]

Yeah I was wondering about that as well what kind of interval work are you doing? I would assume its around round times with lower rest periods. I think you should start a thread, Chrisp (when he is on) can give you some advice too.

 

[John555]

n00bs, I was thinking of lactic threshold type training when I said endurance, not long slow distance, my bad.

Dave, 2 minutes high intensity sprints/runs, followed by a minute rest, repeated 6 times.

PTC, I was referring to the bench 100kg, squat 140kg and deadlift 180kg on the front page. I remember on one of the newsletters your son Max came close to these at around 60-65kg, and shorty's lifts at 67kg is just amazing!

 

[John555]

n00bs, I was thinking of lactic threshold type training when I said endurance, not long slow distance, my bad.

Dave, 2 minutes high intensity sprints/runs, followed by a minute rest, repeated 6 times.

PTC, I was referring to the bench 100kg, squat 140kg and deadlift 180kg on the front page. I remember on one of the newsletters your son Max came close to these at around 60-65kg, and shorty's lifts at 67kg is just amazing!

 

[Christian]

Sorry John, what weights?

For the record, Shorty at 67kg has squatted 172.5kg, benched 120kg and deadlifted 212.5kg with under 3 years lifting.

Thats impressive Markos, what a machine.

 

[Christian]

Sorry John, what weights?

For the record, Shorty at 67kg has squatted 172.5kg, benched 120kg and deadlifted 212.5kg with under 3 years lifting.

Thats impressive Markos, what a machine.

 

[Christian]

n00bs, I was thinking of lactic threshold type training when I said endurance, not long slow distance, my bad.

Dave, 2 minutes high intensity sprints/runs, followed by a minute rest, repeated 6 times.

PTC, I was referring to the bench 100kg, squat 140kg and deadlift 180kg on the front page. I remember on one of the newsletters your son Max came close to these at around 60-65kg, and shorty's lifts at 67kg is just amazing!

Not your bad mate, i Just have this idea in my head of endurance and forrest gump.. But then Boxwers/fighters also have endurance As their fighting is in intervals (rounds).. Something i need to work on alot is conditioning personally..

 

[Christian]

n00bs, I was thinking of lactic threshold type training when I said endurance, not long slow distance, my bad.

Dave, 2 minutes high intensity sprints/runs, followed by a minute rest, repeated 6 times.

PTC, I was referring to the bench 100kg, squat 140kg and deadlift 180kg on the front page. I remember on one of the newsletters your son Max came close to these at around 60-65kg, and shorty's lifts at 67kg is just amazing!

Not your bad mate, i Just have this idea in my head of endurance and forrest gump.. But then Boxwers/fighters also have endurance As their fighting is in intervals (rounds).. Something i need to work on alot is conditioning personally..

 

[dave]

If I were you John I would not worry about numbers (besides progressing) but how it improves your boxing, basically if you are punching with more power and your speed is not decreasing then you are doing well, if not its not working for you. Once you really slow down in your lift numbers and can not progress each week, reassess if you are recovering enough first which in your case would probably be the reasons. You may then want to drop a session and do it 2 days and see how you progress from there if recovery is the problem. Once your gains stop then see where you are at, numbers are not important it is really whether you are gaining from it or not.

 

[dave]

If I were you John I would not worry about numbers (besides progressing) but how it improves your boxing, basically if you are punching with more power and your speed is not decreasing then you are doing well, if not its not working for you. Once you really slow down in your lift numbers and can not progress each week, reassess if you are recovering enough first which in your case would probably be the reasons. You may then want to drop a session and do it 2 days and see how you progress from there if recovery is the problem. Once your gains stop then see where you are at, numbers are not important it is really whether you are gaining from it or not.

 

[dave]

Something i need to work on alot is conditioning personally.

Oh OH me too me too. Added 2 days conditioning this week. 10-20-30-40-50m sprints with a jog back to start between each sprint rest 60 seconds and repeat. Freaken killed me. 15 second sprints with 45 sec rest x 5 and 30 sec sprints with 60 sec rest, killed me too. I seriously need some conditioning. Who wants to buy me a prowler???

 

[dave]

Something i need to work on alot is conditioning personally.

Oh OH me too me too. Added 2 days conditioning this week. 10-20-30-40-50m sprints with a jog back to start between each sprint rest 60 seconds and repeat. Freaken killed me. 15 second sprints with 45 sec rest x 5 and 30 sec sprints with 60 sec rest, killed me too. I seriously need some conditioning. Who wants to buy me a prowler???