I don't see it as that big an issue.
Until new excercises are invented we have to discuss same shit. Bodybuilding/lifting is not a neverending continuum.Same.
its typical that we still discuss the same shit over and over
Until new excercises are invented we have to discuss same shit. Bodybuilding/lifting is not a neverending continuum.
I've wanted a trap bar since forever but it was never a priority. I like mixing up my main lifts now I'm boy specifically training for PL. Plus Conjugate method opened my eyes a lot to engaging other lifts in programming.I'd like to get a trap bar sometime and use it from a bent knees position, instead of squats. Looks like a good exercise
I'd like to get a trap bar sometime and use it from a bent knees position, instead of squats. Looks like a good exercise
Yeah it is...[emoji1]Its interesting what parts of what I wrote you decided to comment on.
My concern is I would be holding the bar quite wide but the uprightness of the movement will assist in my good morning like squat.It's a great exercise.
it falls into an exercise within its own right.
just a great way to strengthen the muscles of the thigh and hip and work the grip really well also.
similar to the dead lift except minimal load on the back because of where your hands are, with the dead you can really lock the back in as the load is slightly in front of the torso, you can't do this with the trap bar, but you can really get a good workout on the legs and shoulder.
My concern is I would be holding the bar quite wide but the uprightness of the movement will assist in my good morning like squat.
Are you saying that gravity does not apply when objects are forced to move on a 5 degree (approx) deviation?They are at an angle Ryan, they don't go down like gravity does
Again, you haven't explained how any of this is unnatural. The only thing that could possibly be an argument here is that torque changes things...but that doesn't make things unnatural, it just makes them less convenient. For training purposes, that's neither good nor bad in and of itself. Some exercises have this factor as a part of their design, such as lateral raises (inb4 "but the smith machine's a MACHINE; they're freeweights" -- that's a separate issue altogether).^^^ This, and your feet are fixed on the floor (they don't move during the squat) and the weight does not stay centred over your centre of gravity and your feet during the squat, loading you muscles and joints up at un natural angels. With a bar bell the weight stays centred over your feet and centre of gravity.
Easy to test, squat in a smith machine and you will instantly see what I am talking about, even just using the bar with no weights on it. You will end up hanging onto the bar to stop yourself falling over and the weight will not be over your natural centre of gravity causing un natural movement. I would hate to try and squat 140kg in a smith machine.
Are you saying that gravity does not apply when objects are forced to move on a 5 degree (approx) deviation?
Are you saying that gravity does not apply when objects are forced to move on a 5 degree (approx) deviation?
Again, you haven't explained how any of this is unnatural. The only thing that could possibly be an argument here is that torque changes things...but that doesn't make things unnatural, it just makes them less convenient. For training purposes, that's neither good nor bad in and of itself. Some exercises have this factor as a part of their design, such as lateral raises (inb4 "but the smith machine's a MACHINE; they're freeweights" -- that's a separate issue altogether).
Sounds like you're not proficient in using the smith machine. I'm not either, so I'd hate to use one for anything other than calf raises, but the fact that using different equipment requires different skill does not make it worse or better, it just makes it different.