thanks for the info Nazzy been doing what you suggested for the last week really liking it so far
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thanks for the info Nazzy been doing what you suggested for the last week really liking it so far
nazzysmith
kuncesmith
Be sure to come back in the future and focus more work on your squats and deadlifts....
If you wanted to do more legs...One option would be to Alternate...
Mon - Upper body
Tues - Legs
Thurs - Upper body
Mon - Legs
Tues - Upper body
Thurs - Legs
Although I would suggest going back to SS if you could at a later date and squatting 3 days a week...
Good luck... This will keep you busy for a long while...
Once Summer comes around i will have most weekends free so will be able to go back to SS and squating 3 days a week. so will do what you have suggested until i can commit to doing SS properly.
Do you think it would be to much to do:
Mon:upper
Tue:legs
Wed:upper
thurs:legs
or would it be worth trying?
Do you think it would be to much to do:
Mon:upper
Tue:legs
Wed:upper
thurs:legs
or would it be worth trying?
nazzysmith
kuncesmith
Try it...It becomes a matter of whether or not you can recover in time...
Ideally you would do
Mon:upper
Tue:legs
Thurs:upper
Fri:legs
Naturally this does not suit you... If you could train Friday I would probably steer you towards Markos begginer program anyway...
Ideally you would do
Mon:upper
Tue:legs
Thurs:upper
Fri:legs
Naturally this does not suit you... If you could train Friday I would probably steer you towards Markos begginer program anyway...
ok well post this in my dairy but thought i would put it in here aswell:
forgot to mention im getting even more confused on what i should be doing again. the more i read the more confused i get.
reason for this:
One of the guys at them gym that i have seen around a fair bit and seems to know what he is talking about (certainly looks like he knows what he is talking about). said he had been watching what i had been doing and asked why i was train etc, etc. he suggest i don't go to failure or close to failure on every set and suggest i researched westside barbells routine, he also suggest i look at some crossfit routines (not sure on this bit and i gather no one here will like it ethier). so after lots more reading i am now confused again.
im thinking maybe i should see the guys that run my gym and get them to outline a plan to suit me and my goals or should i just stick with what i am doing? what do people think?
going to have a better chat with the guy that made the suggestions when i see him next.
forgot to mention im getting even more confused on what i should be doing again. the more i read the more confused i get.
reason for this:
One of the guys at them gym that i have seen around a fair bit and seems to know what he is talking about (certainly looks like he knows what he is talking about). said he had been watching what i had been doing and asked why i was train etc, etc. he suggest i don't go to failure or close to failure on every set and suggest i researched westside barbells routine, he also suggest i look at some crossfit routines (not sure on this bit and i gather no one here will like it ethier). so after lots more reading i am now confused again.
im thinking maybe i should see the guys that run my gym and get them to outline a plan to suit me and my goals or should i just stick with what i am doing? what do people think?
going to have a better chat with the guy that made the suggestions when i see him next.
Figjam Brah
Srs feels brah
Big core lifts mate. train when you can. if your a beginner, you can't really go wrong as long as you include bench, squat and deads. add in chins and overhead. I prefer squats in a reps of 5 and bench for 8, but you got to fiddle around a bit, see what works and feels right..
I think its 'the hamburgler' that is a fan of westside style training, maybe have a look through his log.
A lot of people against crossfit as you know lol, i think wingman and Deep are pro X-fit so you could hit them up.
I think its 'the hamburgler' that is a fan of westside style training, maybe have a look through his log.
A lot of people against crossfit as you know lol, i think wingman and Deep are pro X-fit so you could hit them up.
bradsky
do I even lift?
if your goal is to gain muscle mass, listen to what he has to say. you can't go wrong (too much).
please report back with his advice
if your goal is to gain muscle mass, listen to what he has to say. you can't go wrong (too much).
please report back with his advice
it will be her advice.
here is a link to her results
FIONA REED: 2002- Current :: Elitesportz
hopefully she can steer me in the right direction. will report back with what she has to say.
I predict this ends in lots of smith machine, hammer strength and cable work followed by very little results. Please prove me wrong am genuinely interested to see what she recommends. I would hazard a guess she has never heard of ss.
Me too. Lol
nazzysmith
kuncesmith
Gidday jonesy...
West side is not for beginner's.... A basic program is necessary to build a solid base....
In saying that...... Training around someone who knows what they are talking about could be highly beneficial for you...
Good luck bud.... Let us know what you choose in the end....
West side is not for beginner's.... A basic program is necessary to build a solid base....
In saying that...... Training around someone who knows what they are talking about could be highly beneficial for you...
Good luck bud.... Let us know what you choose in the end....
tonyharrison
New member
Hey, looks like you have had plenty of advice, I have read most of the thread, but I may have missed this but I had to ask:
Is there no way you can fit in a workout either Fri, Sat or Sun? I would make that the priority if possible, rather than confusing yourself with the myriad of split training programs.
For what its worth, I have had experience with chopping and changing programs with slow results, and then getting much faster results doing SS properly. Fatser results is alot more enjoyable! So I would recommend sticking with SS and milking it for all its worth. Rippetoe, recommends 2-3 workouts for a beginner, so 2x a week can still be SS.
If you can't train 3 non consecutive days in the gym, I'd suggest:
Thurs: SS Workout A
Sat: Home bodyweight workout: Single leg squats/lunges etc, pullups/chinups, pushups, or other basic barbell excercises, eg rows, presses (if you have barbell)
To save time, do the home workout as a circuit and you are finished before you know it, so you should be able to fit it in.
Mon: SS Workout B
Tue, Wed: Off, and repeat
Is there no way you can fit in a workout either Fri, Sat or Sun? I would make that the priority if possible, rather than confusing yourself with the myriad of split training programs.
For what its worth, I have had experience with chopping and changing programs with slow results, and then getting much faster results doing SS properly. Fatser results is alot more enjoyable! So I would recommend sticking with SS and milking it for all its worth. Rippetoe, recommends 2-3 workouts for a beginner, so 2x a week can still be SS.
If you can't train 3 non consecutive days in the gym, I'd suggest:
Thurs: SS Workout A
Sat: Home bodyweight workout: Single leg squats/lunges etc, pullups/chinups, pushups, or other basic barbell excercises, eg rows, presses (if you have barbell)
To save time, do the home workout as a circuit and you are finished before you know it, so you should be able to fit it in.
Mon: SS Workout B
Tue, Wed: Off, and repeat
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My advice to you.
Have a go at Fadi's workout. Stick with it for 6 months. Its great and you really see some progress. Do it twice a week Monday/Thursday. Thats what happened to me half the time because of work and all the rest time helped me lift bigger each time.
Or try this its even easier
Squat 3 x 10
Bench Press 3 x 10
Dead lift 3 x 5
Press 3 x 10
It is what I reverted to and it worked. All lifts feel great and it takes no time to leave the gym.
I'll add that most guys on this forum know a hell of a lot more than i do. This has simply worked for me and imo can work for anyone.
Have a go at Fadi's workout. Stick with it for 6 months. Its great and you really see some progress. Do it twice a week Monday/Thursday. Thats what happened to me half the time because of work and all the rest time helped me lift bigger each time.
Or try this its even easier
Squat 3 x 10
Bench Press 3 x 10
Dead lift 3 x 5
Press 3 x 10
It is what I reverted to and it worked. All lifts feel great and it takes no time to leave the gym.
I'll add that most guys on this forum know a hell of a lot more than i do. This has simply worked for me and imo can work for anyone.
Yeah you could do this 2x per week and do light wokouts of 2-3 assistance exercises on the other days.
Abs, assorted rows, back extensions, bis and tris, laterals, bodyweight exercises
Eg. day 1 and 3 do the above workout... day 2 abs 3 sets, seated cable row 3x10, laterals side + rear 3x15-20... day 4 abs 3 sets, upright row 3x10, bi curls + tri pushdowns 3x10
Going very high reps on the light days on 1 of the exercises can pay big dividends too.
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I bought his book and now he has changed it up a bit and instead of rows is doing power cleans.
Now i'm going to have to spend big money on bumper plates and make room for my power cleans.
err he always power cleaned...