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Of course it does. When there is no risk of getting caught more people will use than if there was the threat of random testing at any time.

If guys winning medals are using what does that say to the up and comers.
 
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Of course it does. When there is no risk of getting caught more people will use than if there was the threat of random testing at any time.

If guys winning medals are using what does that say to the up and comers.

Thats pretty dumb mate. My house has a back yard therefore i must like pets?
 
People will use based on their own thoughts on whether they need/want to or not, regardless of whether there's testing or not.


Noooooooooooooooooooo. Testing is a deterrent. That's the whole basis of our Legal system. The fear of getting caught and punished deters people from committing crimes, or in this case taking PEDS.
 
At Fuzzy's gym we all compete in GPC apart from one person who competes in PA
Two of us take PED's. Myself and Fuzzy

Kristos has squatted 265kg and deadlifted 300kg in the 67.5kg class and recently squatted 280kg in training
Pat won proraw and has squatted / deadlifted 300kg in training in the 82.5kg class
Adam squats 250kg and deadlifts 270kg in the 90kg class
Lucy is in the 56kg class and deadlifted 155kg this week, benched 70 I think. Dunno about squat
Jodie is a 50 year old mother of 3, deadlifted 155kg and benches close to 80kg now, 90kg class
Kelly squatted 200kg like it was nothing and deadlifted 210kg
Leana squats 160 and deadlifts 170, benches 80, 67.5kg class
Jacinta deadlifted 165kg at the Adelaide cup after squatting and benching, 67.5kg class. She left the gym though and just got 152.5kg today in a push/pull

None of these people take drugs
 
At Fuzzy's gym we all compete in GPC apart from one person who competes in PA
Two of us take PED's. Myself and Fuzzy

Kristos has squatted 265kg and deadlifted 300kg in the 67.5kg class and recently squatted 280kg in training
Pat won proraw and has squatted / deadlifted 300kg in training in the 82.5kg class
Adam squats 250kg and deadlifts 270kg in the 90kg class
Lucy is in the 56kg class and deadlifted 155kg this week, benched 70 I think. Dunno about squat
Jodie is a 50 year old mother of 3, deadlifted 155kg and benches close to 80kg now, 90kg class
Kelly squatted 200kg like it was nothing and deadlifted 210kg
Leana squats 160 and deadlifts 170, benches 80, 67.5kg class
Jacinta deadlifted 165kg at the Adelaide cup after squatting and benching, 67.5kg class. She left the gym though and just got 152.5kg today in a push/pull

None of these people take drugs
Are any of the chicks lookers?
 
Thats pretty dumb mate. My house has a back yard therefore i must like pets?

Shit analogy that has nothing to do with sport or competition.

Let's say that in powerlifting the judges decided to not judge squat depth anymore. Just make it an honor system. Do you think that would encourage high squats?
 
At Fuzzy's gym we all compete in GPC apart from one person who competes in PA
Two of us take PED's. Myself and Fuzzy

Kristos has squatted 265kg and deadlifted 300kg in the 67.5kg class and recently squatted 280kg in training
Pat won proraw and has squatted / deadlifted 300kg in training in the 82.5kg class
Adam squats 250kg and deadlifts 270kg in the 90kg class
Lucy is in the 56kg class and deadlifted 155kg this week, benched 70 I think. Dunno about squat
Jodie is a 50 year old mother of 3, deadlifted 155kg and benches close to 80kg now, 90kg class
Kelly squatted 200kg like it was nothing and deadlifted 210kg
Leana squats 160 and deadlifts 170, benches 80, 67.5kg class
Jacinta deadlifted 165kg at the Adelaide cup after squatting and benching, 67.5kg class. She left the gym though and just got 152.5kg today in a push/pull

None of these people take drugs


And you can speak for all of them.
 
Shit analogy that has nothing to do with sport or competition.

Let's say that in powerlifting the judges decided to not judge squat depth anymore. Just make it an honor system. Do you think that would encourage high squats?

welcome back bazz.
 
If you PA guys ever want to read your annual report, you can get it for $38.

That way, when you guys ever go to your annual meeting, then you will be up to date with operations.

I am sure Mr wilks would appreciate your feedback, and any ideas which can help promote drug free powerlifting.

No one ever needs to ask to read it, just buy it.

https://connectonline.asic.gov.au/R...searchTab=search&_adf.ctrl-state=2a54odsfv_19

I'm surprised you didn't purchase this - wouldn't the information contained within be of interest to you?
 
I purchased 2011-12 report; but no, PA finances should be a matter for PA members. I may buy at a later date if I am in mood.

I just laugh that PA, govt assisted and recognised and with the highest membership fees by far, is now only the 2nd biggest fed in Australia.
 
I purchased 2011-12 report; but no, PA finances should be a matter for PA members. I may buy at a later date if I am in mood.

I just laugh that PA, govt assisted and recognised and with the highest membership fees by far, is now only the 2nd biggest fed in Australia.

I just cringe that the other untested organisations are repeating history. Like the little explosion in the 90's. The seedy types are going to be busted, loudly and publicly and could drag everything back to the stone age again. The difference is this time there is the ability for the downfall to to be amplified and the cataclysm pervasive; there wasn't much of a social media or internet scene last time around.
 
when is it going to happen? I thought PA and the govt would have made the moves right now.

The ASC and ASADA have indicated tome they have no mandate to do anything beyond NSO they recognise. Is this a law and order issue?

Please explain.
 
when is it going to happen? I thought PA and the govt would have made the moves right now.

The ASC and ASADA have indicated tome they have no mandate to do anything beyond NSO they recognise. Is this a law and order issue?

Please explain.

The people I break bread with are unlikely to give that away. The time will be of its own choosing as they say. Mechanism - let it fester long enough and all the enforcement powers of the federal government can be used.
 
I doubt theres much more users in gpc than pa. I think you over estimate one and underestimate the other.
 
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