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Pecs

Goosey said:
Please, list the others

Let's discuss.
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- Adding weight without changing reps/sets.
- adding sets without changing weight.
- adding reps without changing sets or weight.

Etc
Etc
Etc

Build it up over 4 or 5 weeks more and more then take a deload. (60-75% of regular volume - 70-95% of regular intensity depending on the lifter).


Ill he quiet now. Giving too much away.


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Drop sets
Forced reps
Pre-exhaust
Giant sets
BFR

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Yes but don't we measure "progress" with the addage of weight ?

You could do rep's till the cows come home.
 
Or maybe you dont train hard enough to need a break?

Its not the timeframe that matters here. Its the intensity of the effort applied.

Week 1 is easy.
Week 2 is harder. Say 20%.
Week 3 is harder again. Say another 20%.
Week 4 is getting fukken hard. At this point doing say 60-70% more work at a higher intensity.
Week 5 youre fucked. And you need to reduce your fatigue....so you deload.
Then go again. This time 5% harder.

Ya get me?

Or is it too difficult to understand?

Push on from that point and you raise the risk of injury.

I heard a great analogy yesterday from Eric Helms on this. Think of your cars service intervals, you can stretch them out a little more than maybe you should, but stretch them out too far and you raise the risk of the thing fucking up.

Think of the body as the vehicle.

I could point you to many other great minds of the stregth world who express similar views...but you wouldnt care.

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Don't try and be a condescending turd.
I stand by what I said, most who subscribe to the de-load philosophy only think that they need a break whereas in fact it's just a waste of time.
I've trained plenty hard for years on end now do you get me?
 
Darkoz said:
Don't try and be a condescending turd.
I stand by what I said, most who subscribe to the de-load philosophy only think that they need a break whereas in fact it's just a waste of time.
I've trained plenty hard for years on end now do you get me?
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Most who 'correctly" subscribe to it, reap great benefits too.

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Timeah said:
Why?

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For myself I like to work hard, if I'm feeling tired I'll rest, keeping in mind I've been training consistently for the last 25 to 30 years.
The longer I workout the more I realise how important sleep is as an aid to my recovery
 
Although I don't subscribe to this "ramping up" theory either I do from time to time increase my weight on the bar whilst reducing the number of rep's.
 
Adding weight is only a measure of progress if you're training for strength. The weight on the bar is pretty irrelevant to a bodybuilder.
You can induce hypertrophy without adding a heap more weight on the bar.
 
White_Lie said:
Adding weight is only a measure of progress if you're training for strength. The weight on the bar is pretty irrelevant to a bodybuilder.
You can induce hypertrophy without adding a heap more weight on the bar.
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Weight on the bar is absolutely not irrelevant to a bodybuilder. 1rm may be irrelevant but weight on the bar certainly isn't.
 
Bazza20 said:
Weight on the bar is absolutely not irrelevant to a bodybuilder. 1rm may be irrelevant but weight on the bar certainly isn't.
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Yep.
One should be seeking to increase both size AND strength as they both go hand in hand.

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Timeah said:
Or maybe you dont train hard enough to need a break?

Its not the timeframe that matters here. Its the intensity of the effort applied.

Week 1 is easy.
Week 2 is harder. Say 20%.
Week 3 is harder again. Say another 20%.
Week 4 is getting fukken hard. At this point doing say 60-70% more work at a higher intensity.
Week 5 youre fucked. And you need to reduce your fatigue....so you deload.
Then go again. This time 5% harder.

Ya get me?

Or is it too difficult to understand?

Push on from that point and you raise the risk of injury.

I heard a great analogy yesterday from Eric Helms on this. Think of your cars service intervals, you can stretch them out a little more than maybe you should, but stretch them out too far and you raise the risk of the thing fucking up.

Think of the body as the vehicle.

I could point you to many other great minds of the stregth world who express similar views...but you wouldnt care.

:)



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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Timeah again.

Don't let good ol' proper training talk get in the way of the bitchyness around here.
 
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