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Sticky I don't know the rules in Olympics and am not gonna go read the rule book. But i would think that the rules would be black or white to wether HRT was exempt or not. I would guess that It wouldn't be allowed otherwise every athlete would be trying to get an exemption for HRT.
Sticky, you say bring you up to 'Normal' levels, it's still not fair, unless you test every competitor how do you know they all don't have low test too?
Nit sure if serious Morgan?
I don't see how somebody else's failure to maintain their body has anything to do with me lol.
Anybody with a medical condition had access to a doctor and treatment, same as I do....
Nit sure if serious Morgan?
I don't see how somebody else's failure to maintain their body has anything to do with me lol.
Anybody with a medical condition had access to a doctor and treatment, same as I do....
To Staunch were talking strictly about fairness in tested comps. Anything else is fair game.
Sticky this is a serious question that i dont know the answer to. If you were an O lifter and qualified to compete at the Olympics would you be allowed to compete.
Also i see were you are coming from. Ive read your training longs and you train hard and its due to your hard work why you are seeing results. There is definitely a grey area to what is a performance enhancing drug in a tested competition and i know that tested competition is in no way 100% clean. lol
Sticky weren't your original test levels in the normal range but on the lower end of normal?
I see alot of people in gyms taking copious amounts of drugs.. What i dont see is champions coming from there. There has to be something going on besides taking drugs and being a champion would you not agree.
Actually, your at a disadvantage... Its well known that you need higher then normal test on trt to compensate for 'normal'natural levels.. That is because all hormones work together and if you are having problems with test you will probably be having problems with other things.
This coming from a bloke who 2 weeks ago didn't train his legs because you know, he gets enough leg work from running. Now all of a sudden is an expert on all things steroids.
I see alot of people in gyms taking copious amounts of drugs.. What i dont see is champions coming from there. There has to be something going on besides taking drugs and being a champion would you not agree.
This coming from a bloke who 2 weeks ago didn't train his legs because you know, he gets enough leg work from running. Now all of a sudden is an expert on all things steroids.
I didnt say running comes close to proper leg training.
Me an expert on steroids? Nah far from one, I do my research, but I don't claim to be an expert.
Seems like you're the expert trying to prove fuck knows what point by saying everyone on TRT is at an advantage. Whats wrong, you couldn't find a doc to get you on TRT so you're having a whinge about everyone else on them?
There you go that settles the Olympic and test comp side of things.
But in general, non-competitive, lifestyle based bodybuilding/training whatever you want to call it, I still don't see how TRT puts someone at an advantage.
There you go that settles the Olympic and test comp side of things.
But in general, non-competitive, lifestyle based bodybuilding/training whatever you want to call it, I still don't see how TRT puts someone at an advantage.
It's definately a grey area & I can see what Bazza is saying.
I mean should a short basketball player be able to wear lifts/stilts to bring them up to 'normal' height?
Regardless if someone has low test & wants to use HRT then go for it, it's their choice.