Have you ever taken Steroids?

[Bazza20]

Sticky I don't know the rules in Olympics and am not gonna go read the rule book. But i would think that the rules would be black or white to wether HRT was exempt or not. I would guess that It wouldn't be allowed otherwise every athlete would be trying to get an exemption for HRT.

 

[Morgan]

Sticky, you say bring you up to 'Normal' levels, it's still not fair, unless you test every competitor how do you know they all don't have low test too?

 

[tray_182002]

Yer i am holding off. Im glad i have wait because i have learnt more n more since i have waited . Thanks for your help/input

 

[Sticky]

Nit sure if serious Morgan?
I don't see how somebody else's failure to maintain their body has anything to do with me lol.
Anybody with a medical condition had access to a doctor and treatment, same as I do....

 

[Christian]

Nit sure if serious Morgan?
I don't see how somebody else's failure to maintain their body has anything to do with me lol.
Anybody with a medical condition had access to a doctor and treatment, same as I do....

I would of head but the screen a few pages ago.

 

[Christian]

To Staunch were talking strictly about fairness in tested comps. Anything else is fair game.

Sticky this is a serious question that i dont know the answer to. If you were an O lifter and qualified to compete at the Olympics would you be allowed to compete.

Also i see were you are coming from. Ive read your training longs and you train hard and its due to your hard work why you are seeing results. There is definitely a grey area to what is a performance enhancing drug in a tested competition and i know that tested competition is in no way 100% clean. lol

Sticky weren't your original test levels in the normal range but on the lower end of normal?

8nmol/L isnt normal.

I see alot of people in gyms taking copious amounts of drugs.. What i dont see is champions coming from there. There has to be something going on besides taking drugs and being a champion would you not agree.

 

[staunch308]

This has got to be the stupidest discussion I have seen. Being on TRT does not put you at an advantage in anyway possible. End of story.

 

[Christian]

Actually, your at a disadvantage... Its well known that you need higher then normal test on trt to compensate for 'normal'natural levels.. That is because all hormones work together and if you are having problems with test you will probably be having problems with other things.

 

[Bazza20]

This has got to be the stupidest discussion I have seen. Being on TRT does not put you at an advantage in anyway possible. End of story.

This coming from a bloke who 2 weeks ago didn't train his legs because you know, he gets enough leg work from running. Now all of a sudden is an expert on all things steroids.

 

[jchen]

lol this is popcornz now.

 

[Bazza20]

I see alot of people in gyms taking copious amounts of drugs.. What i dont see is champions coming from there. There has to be something going on besides taking drugs and being a champion would you not agree.

Agree totally, that's not what I'm arguing at all.

 

[staunch308]

This coming from a bloke who 2 weeks ago didn't train his legs because you know, he gets enough leg work from running. Now all of a sudden is an expert on all things steroids.

I didnt say running comes close to proper leg training.

Me an expert on steroids? Nah far from one, I do my research, but I don't claim to be an expert.

Seems like you're the expert trying to prove fuck knows what point by saying everyone on TRT is at an advantage. Whats wrong, you couldn't find a doc to get you on TRT so you're having a whinge about everyone else on them?

Dude grow up, seriously.

 

[Shrek]

Any exongenous hormones will not be accepted by tested Feds or the Olympic movement.
HRT or not.

 

[Bazza20]

Any exongenous hormones will not be accepted by tested Feds or the Olympic movement.
HRT or not.

I wonder why they won't allow that??

Let me guess. Is it because they think it will give those people an advantage. ??

 

[staunch308]

Any exongenous hormones will not be accepted by tested Feds or the Olympic movement.
HRT or not.

There you go that settles the Olympic and test comp side of things.

But in general, non-competitive, lifestyle based bodybuilding/training whatever you want to call it, I still don't see how TRT puts someone at an advantage.

 

[Bazza20]

There you go that settles the Olympic and test comp side of things.

But in general, non-competitive, lifestyle based bodybuilding/training whatever you want to call it, I still don't see how TRT puts someone at an advantage.

Have you even read any of this thread. This discussion has only ever been about HRT use in tested competition.

Who cares If someone is on HRT in an untested comp or just in general life. There is no issue there at all.

 

[Shrek]

I wonder why they won't allow that??

Let me guess. Is it because they think it will give those people an advantage. ??

Yep, because there will always be the doubters and it makes the ruling black and white, no grey area.

 

[Sticky]

I wonder why they won't allow that??

Let me guess. Is it because they think it will give those people an advantage. ??

What advantage do I have lol?

You keep saying I have some sort of advantage, but never tell me what it is?

My bloods are 29nmol.....


I think its more politics than anything else tbh.

 

[Sticky]

Yep, because there will always be the doubters and it makes the ruling black and white, no grey area.

THIS.........


I dont think it has anything to do with this "advantage"

Its better and easier for them to keep it balck and white rather include the grey.

 

[NAPARM]

It's definately a grey area & I can see what Bazza is saying.
I mean should a short basketball player be able to wear lifts/stilts to bring them up to 'normal' height?
Regardless if someone has low test & wants to use HRT then go for it, it's their choice.