KungFooGoo
Gangster
Im not sure i fully get what you're saying. Are you saying starting strength wouldn't be aroud if rip didn't work with crossfit at one point?
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xfit appreciation thread
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Im not sure i fully get what you're saying. Are you saying starting strength wouldn't be aroud if rip didn't work with crossfit at one point?
KungFooGoo
Gangster
Im sure his lifts were better then that but if thats the same Hanley from the strong lift forums then that shows you how many people he pushed away. That guy was one of his most blind followers.
But he doesn't give a shit at all, his making more money now his making people pay for everything then l make so l guess he wins.
The Hamburgler
Spotter Loader
On his site he now claims a 180kg/400lb squat and 220/500 pull at 78/175
Nothing to be sneezed at but not brilliant for someone doing "5x5" since 1999
About Mehdi | StrongLifts.com
Mega lols at the "my 22 year old Asian girlfriend loves my 6 pack" line
Nothing to be sneezed at but not brilliant for someone doing "5x5" since 1999
About Mehdi | StrongLifts.com
Mega lols at the "my 22 year old Asian girlfriend loves my 6 pack" line
Rippetoe ran workshops, worked out plans, wrote articles etc for crossfit, he has had his own gym since 1980 and was taught by guys like Bill Starr. Crossfit may have helped his popularity but he was around doing the same thing he does now long before Crossfit was running.
KungFooGoo
Gangster
Yeah that more or less what l said l think?
Pfft if thats the worst thing he said in his 'about me' section his toned it down a little bit. Still gave me a chuckle though, im not sure who his target audience is meant to be with lines like that though...
@Dave, thanks for enlightening me on that. I think l got the wrong idea from wingman.
wingman
Super M0derator
Let me put it another way.
The crossfit gym closest to me only allowed 7 people in at a time. They had 7 squat racks, 7 olympic platforms, enough bumper plates for everyone to be using them at the same time, 7 c2 rowing machines, a long pullup bar along one side of the wall, enough room for 7 people. Enough tyres for 7 people to be flipping, enough kettlebells for 7 people to be snatching or swinging or whatever, even when dual-kettlebell exercises came up. Plus, it was fun being a member there; everyone knew everyones name and there was healthy rivalry between us to improve our lifts or times. We used to all go out to the pub etc together once a month.
It was almost heaven. After they munted up the programming and I left (It'd be even more heaven if you could follow your own program there) I tried working out at Fitness First for a while. There's no olympic platform at all, and I got told off for doing powercleans and snatches off the floor. When I escalated this to the manager I was told it was because less experienced members might try to copy me and injure themselves. There's only about 5 rowing machines so I sometimes I have to wait for one. Theres only 1 squat rack so I've never NOT had to wait for it. I end up losing motivation and stopping training. I can feel my body gradually declining over the past couple of months. I doubt any of the other gyms here would be much different. I can't have a home gym at my current house, but hope to at my new house.
So bring a PTC over to Perth and I'll be the first to sign up. Or maybe I'll win lotto and open my own gym and it'll have a mixture of strength programs depending on the client, and incorporating some (not all) crossfit methods for conditioning.
The crossfit gym closest to me only allowed 7 people in at a time. They had 7 squat racks, 7 olympic platforms, enough bumper plates for everyone to be using them at the same time, 7 c2 rowing machines, a long pullup bar along one side of the wall, enough room for 7 people. Enough tyres for 7 people to be flipping, enough kettlebells for 7 people to be snatching or swinging or whatever, even when dual-kettlebell exercises came up. Plus, it was fun being a member there; everyone knew everyones name and there was healthy rivalry between us to improve our lifts or times. We used to all go out to the pub etc together once a month.
It was almost heaven. After they munted up the programming and I left (It'd be even more heaven if you could follow your own program there) I tried working out at Fitness First for a while. There's no olympic platform at all, and I got told off for doing powercleans and snatches off the floor. When I escalated this to the manager I was told it was because less experienced members might try to copy me and injure themselves. There's only about 5 rowing machines so I sometimes I have to wait for one. Theres only 1 squat rack so I've never NOT had to wait for it. I end up losing motivation and stopping training. I can feel my body gradually declining over the past couple of months. I doubt any of the other gyms here would be much different. I can't have a home gym at my current house, but hope to at my new house.
So bring a PTC over to Perth and I'll be the first to sign up. Or maybe I'll win lotto and open my own gym and it'll have a mixture of strength programs depending on the client, and incorporating some (not all) crossfit methods for conditioning.
Bench Polkov
SIR BENCHALOT
You're fucking kidding right? Where the hell did you get this bullshit from? Ripp made a name for himself with his books, Starting Strength and Practical Programming, the first of which was published in 2005 before he even became associated with xfit in 2006. Back then nobody new what xfit was but they knew about Ripp's Starting Strength. He was also a member of the original group behind the original strength and conditioning certification in the US back in 1985. Despite the fact he was never an elite level athlete he is at least recognised as a reknowned strength expert, particularly in the areas of beginner training. At least give credit where credit is due and don't go grouping him in with fucktards like Glassman and Medhi.
Bench Polkov
SIR BENCHALOT
Just humour me here and define the crossfit principles/methods that you hold in high regard.
wingman
Super M0derator
Am I allowed to answer with a link?
CrossFit Football for example is the list of WODS done in January 2012 by the affiliate Crossfit Football, (based in Calif). It's written by a 10 year veteran of the NFL, targeted at NFL players and has said in articles that it's basically the same as what his coaches had him do.
Humor me with your thoughts. Tell me if you find something scary or dangerous.
Edit: I should also mention that that link contains only the conditioning component. There's a strength component as well 4 days per week.
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Bench Polkov
SIR BENCHALOT
The bold and highlighted part is my biggest gripe of all. Its just basic training that's been rebranded.
Most of the "new" forms of crossfit fall into this category, crossfit total, conjugate crossfit. None of these are crossfit methods or principles. They are aspects of other forms of training stolen and rebranded to fill the gaping holes in the original crossfit method... which itself falls into the same category.
I think I would honestly have less of a gripe with crossfit if its proponents just recognised and declared this openly rather than calling it some revolutionary exercise program.
Fuck I could rant about this for ages but I hope you get my point.
wingman
Super M0derator
You're a bit of a ranter
But yes i get it and completely agree.
Why is this a problem for you? It's no different to McDonalds making the same burgers people have been making for centuries and giving each one it's own name for marketing purposes.
Also, that link was going to the wrong place initially but i fixed it.
Bench Polkov
SIR BENCHALOT
You're a bit of a ranter
But yes i get it and completely agree.
Why is this a problem for you? It's no different to McDonalds making the same burgers people have been making for centuries and giving each one it's own name for marketing purposes.
Also, that link was going to the wrong place initially but i fixed it.
I hate that they've commercialised something I love. I hate the douchebaggery it attracts. I hate hearing people talking about it as if its something revolutionary when its just PL/WL with conditioning work done for time. And fuck I hate kipping pullups.
wingman
Super M0derator
On that site i linked, pullups and chinups are both done regularly (and so are weighted ones of each) and almost no one following that programming does the kipping variety
I agree its attracted a lot of douchebaggery. I still frequent their forums and roll my eyes at the stuff some people come up with.
Bench Polkov
SIR BENCHALOT
On that site i linked, pullups and chinups are both done regularly (and so are weighted ones of each) and almost no one following that programming does the kipping variety
I agree its attracted a lot of douchebaggery. I still frequent their forums and roll my eyes at the stuff some people come up with.
This sums up a lot of my points nicely...
Bench Polkov
SIR BENCHALOT
The Irongarm Couch thread, 1164 pages of bitching about crossfit. Couch stands for coach aka Glassman.
http://www.irongarmx.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5075&start=29050
wingman
Super M0derator
I too made a joke about Glassman. Someone on the crossfit forums asked why he doesnt have a wikipedia page. I responded with "he does, it lists all the workouts hes done this year". I got suspended from the forums
Wingman, Dave is exactly right. What you are giving credit to crossfit for is not actually crossfit but normal s&c programming then just using the crossfit brand to promote it self.
As for Rippetoe. Haha, you have no idea what you are talking about. He was popular before he did a few crossfit workshops. In the end he ended it because of there lack of programming, progression and form in exercises.
Louie Simmons also did a few crossfit workshops as well. What next, crossfit popularized westside or maybe crossfit even invented the westside conjugate system.
This sums up a lot of my points nicely...
Haha awesome. That chart is about as perfect as it gets when explaining crossfit.
wingman
Super M0derator
So before it was awful and now its normal s&c? Glad to see.
Rip more than did a few workshops, he was franchised.
As for Louie, don't use past tense CrossFit Specialty Courses he's on the regular roster. They search out experts in each field to gain knowledge from.