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Strength conditioning with a tyre..

Agree with Bazza.

Sport prowess - skills of sport plus specific conditioning exercises that limit risk of injury.

While i like doing power cleans, they are also overrated for sports, unless you are a lifter.

Pure strength exercises, and basic plyometrics (sprints and bounding) often all that is required for conditioning.
 
spartacus said:
Agree with Bazza.

Sport prowess - skills of sport plus specific conditioning exercises that limit risk of injury.

While i like doing power cleans, they are also overrated for sports, unless you are a lifter.

Pure strength exercises, and basic plyometrics (sprints and bounding) often all that is required for conditioning.
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Trust me I agree that power cleans are overrated for sports they are just better than tyre flips. For sports people I would use backwards overhead throws over power cleans. No technique training really needed. Purely explosive as no need to slow to catch a bar. Just throw it and let go. Same triple extension type movement as power cleans. Less injury risk as throwing the weight and not catching a 100+ kg bar. Just more effective for sports people.

Also from personal experience be carful with Plyometrics especially depth jumps.

Depending on the sport you could be right regarding conditioning. AFL, no a chance, need more conditioning than that.
 
Bazza, when i mean conditioning is that specific to each sport. AFL needs a number of types including power and endurance.

Yes, my preferred best tests for power are standing long (landing on feet without falling down) and overhead shot.

My best are 2.9m and 16m. some athletes have done 3.6m ad 24 metres. Champion shot putters, with their strength, speed and leverage, are often the most outstanding overhead shot put throwers.

I trained with Sev Rocca when he threw 17m over his head when he was 16.
 
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Deadlift with the bar behind the knees - add bands and pull fast
This exercise is very good for explosive strength. I showed this to a few people on my team and told them to do it once a week - it's easy as it doesn't need coaching or hard explaining they just try and pull faster each time and add weights slowly but not if speed drops. Pre-season starts soon and lets just say the coach is going to be surprised at how fast 4 of his players can run now lol.

It doesn't fatigue them either and a strong lower back will stop hamstring pulls
 
0ni said:
Deadlift with the bar behind the knees - add bands and pull fast
This exercise is very good for explosive strength. I showed this to a few people on my team and told them to do it once a week - it's easy as it doesn't need coaching or hard explaining they just try and pull faster each time and add weights slowly but not if speed drops. Pre-season starts soon and lets just say the coach is going to be surprised at how fast 4 of his players can run now lol.

It doesn't fatigue them either and a strong lower back will stop hamstring pulls
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To be honest Oni you have made this too complicated again. Bar behind knees? Bands. Wtf. They are likely footy players with fuck all strength anyway. Squat, deadlift and sprint. And none of this shit of turning sprints into cardio like every fucker wants to do.

Actually for footy players I would even simplify it more than that. Scrap squats and deads for trap bar deads, even easier to do.
 
Not sure what is complicated about a hack squat
The bands allow you to accelerate into it. Lots of basketball plays use this exercise... I tried getting people to deadlift but they always fuck it up lol. No trap bars in Anytime Fitness also
 
Bazza20 said:
Another retarded answer. Sure footy is risky, no shit so why risk extra unnecessary injury through stupid training. Makes fucking no sense to me getting injured training doesn't help your game at all.

Squats and deads shit all over tyre flips for strength. Less risk of injury and much easier to incrementally load and increase strength. Sure they are not without risk but they are a better strength exercise and carry less risk. Win, win.

Conditioning. Various running and training drills are much better than tyre flips for conditioning. Conditioning should be specific for your sport.

Speed. Lol. Ok what improve your speed for what. Tyre flips. Well fucking done. Pity no one tyre flips on a footy field. Try sprints and jumps for speed because that's what you do when you play footy. Even powercleans are a much better speed/power exercise than tyre flip.

Enough of the tyre flips are awesome answer it means nothin and makes you sound like a stupid try hard Jim Wendler.
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Nice insult :eek:!
 
Fukin who cares, why overcomplicate this, if someone wants to flip a tyre instead of running, sprinting or riding a faggy bike then so be it, fuck what anyone else thinks. Best to mix the shit up and do what you enjoy which will help a shit ton in the long run to jeep your mind healthy and keep you interested in lifting.
 
Grippy said:
Fukin who cares, why overcomplicate this, if someone wants to flip a tyre instead of running, sprinting or riding a faggy bike then so be it, fuck what anyone else thinks. Best to mix the shit up and do what you enjoy which will help a shit ton in the long run to jeep your mind healthy and keep you interested in lifting.
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That's exactly right for anyone just training. The argument was about if they were optimal for footy players.
 
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