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Testogel

Sounds like my life...

I could add:
* depression
* tiredness/lethargy
* poor work performance and concentration
* gynocomastia
* put on fat easy/muscle hard

I did this IMH testosterone deficiency questionnaire and pretty much ticked every box...

Low-Testosterone, Symptoms Of Andropause, Testosterone Deficiency

Ah well, I'll get it sorted then you lot watch out when it comes to my bulking/lifting!!

Cheers,
Mike

How long have I been telling you to get your bloods checked :p.
Just about every person can tick the boxes, but unfortunately, testosterone isnt the issue until your bloods say it is.
 
Now that i realise you lot are sitting around rubbing your cream into your nuts everyday, it sort of changes how i view you all...lol, just jokes.
 
I hate sus with a passion. Can you tell me why it's one ml every ten days? I thought the idea of sus was to have one shot a month as it has a mixer of short and long esteemed steroids in it. I know people who use it illegally shoot 2 ml a week which is a waste of time! May as well be using something good like test e or p.
I have tried 1ml per week and 1 ml per month and every other combination in between and 10 days seems like, but more importantly feels like, the magic number. I have used test e and it didn't feel right for me. I guess it is just personal choice and being in tune with your body that has led me to sus
Hi Jboy.
I am also wondering why sust is being administered every 10 days... Was that your call or the doctors?
Are you being treated for low T?
By a GP or a specialist?
Can I ask how old are you?
Yes the 10 days was my call in consultation with my doctor
Yes I am being treated for low T
I have seen endocronoligists and found them to be useless. The first one i saw admitted yes I do have low test levels but due to my age SHE would not prescribe me anything ( I was about 28 when i first started to look into it)
I have found a GP who treats me
I am currently 34
I doubt sus would be prescribed every 10 days hey...??? And even if it was illegal gear... WHY SUS?????? You never know though fill us in?
The sus is dr prescribed and legally obtained with a script from the pharmacy. As stated above it is my personal preference with dr consultation to use sus after trialing many other methods and delivery systems
 
Yeah they can.

Gp's can't prescribe steroids and hcg etc??? (that's what my gp told me) How is a GP giving you scripts for them?
 
Question - isnt there a fine line between the feeling of Low test and high test?

I have heard that when test is to high you may feel some effects much like low test...
 
What is normal then?

Like I see you guys list diff things i.e Mike.W

* depression
* tiredness/lethargy
* poor work performance and concentration
* gynocomastia
* put on fat easy/muscle hard


Arnt alot of these things normal? and/or can be very easily caused by different things....

Like who isnt tired half way through a work day, who doesnt feel abit down sometimes, etc etc...

Just trying to work out what a "normal" person acts like..lol...I think im a normal person - I get tired most days if im at work, sometimes I feel stressed/down, sometimes I dont wanna root everyday lol.
 
What if you eat right, your fit, sleep allot and don't drink alcohol? Shouldn't you feel better?

Ok there are allot of things that can give you those symptoms but now I'm on testosterone I don't feel any symptoms....
 
the questionnaire on the test site was hilarious and could describe the symptoms of any number of things including depression itself or cancer.

Like the poster before said, some people do have low test but you won't know you have it unless you get blood work done. If it makes you sleep better, get the blood work done and hopefully you can cross it off the list.

I thought I might have low test about 1 year ago, because I suddenly had a lot of these symptoms. My wife was pregnant and it's apparently quite common for men to experience hormone changes to help them prepare for parenthood. But I'm all good now and in hindsight I actually put a lot of the symptoms down to depression which I suspect I may have been suffering at the time. That and I was still recovering from a bad hip/low back injury that no doubt had heaps of cortisol surging through me.
 
It isn't normal to feel like crap.. Occasionally yes but not day in day out
No matter what you do.
 
Whats crap tho? like can not get out of bed or "im at work but just cant be fucked"...because if thats the case me and everyone I know must have low test
 
The thing that I see is those symptoms could have a wide range of causes. People self diagnose themselves over google that they have low test and are convinced they need to be perscribed test to fix all there problems. They then jump from GP to GP untill they find one willing to give them test and then the problems disappear.


If people believe enough that something is going to work for them it most likely will.

Could there a placebo effect going on here with some peope.

Problem is there could be another underlying cause. Or it could be just feeling run down and then convincing yourself you need test.
 
If you tick all the boxes, get blood work done.

If bloods are normal, you don't have low T. If bloods aren't normal, find somebody that will help you.

It's pretty simple when you look at it like that.
 
You implied it....

People with a mindset like yours are the reason it's so difficult to get treatment.
 
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