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I used to love that machine too. One of the gyms I trained at in London had one. Me and a totally jacked Lithuanian dude used to go the full stack for AMRAP sets. Good, painful times.
pretty sure my gym has one of these, naturally positioned right behind the power cage. How would using that be better than doing dips though? Just more isolation of the tricep muscles themselves?
pretty sure my gym has one of these, naturally positioned right behind the power cage. How would using that be better than doing dips though? Just more isolation of the tricep muscles themselves?
Just two exercises (off the top of my head) that don't require a specific machine to make it a better, safer more efficiant exercise are; dips and calve raises.
skull crushers heavy and low rep, pushdowns (esp using rope) i find best is with light weight but high rep (at the end of tricepts workout), easy safe exercise to goto failure. try 50 rep stuff.
skull crushers to failure will hurt your tendons, stick to heavy but controlled. or do whatever you want...
pretty sure my gym has one of these, naturally positioned right behind the power cage. How would using that be better than doing dips though? Just more isolation of the tricep muscles themselves?
Anyone else get shoulder pain if they use a rope and really flare it out at the bottom or is it just me? I prefer using the v or straight bar for pushdowns for this reason
Thats not possible Joel, the major difference between the two exercises (bar and machine) would be the strength curve, even that would be minimal.
the major difference I see between the two is the fact that a weak man or women can use this type of machine to improve the strength of the upper body using a full movement.
but I like the idea better of using negatives on some bars, for a beginner, or weak person.
Thats not possible Joel, the major difference between the two exercises (bar and machine) would be the strength curve, even that would be minimal.
the major difference I see between the two is the fact that a weak man or women can use this type of machine to improve the strength of the upper body using a full movement.
but I like the idea better of using negatives on some bars, for a beginner, or weak person.
Dips are more of a full upper body movement using the chest/front shoulders/triceps/even your back to a degree.
Machine your sitting there - alot of cases strapping yourself in (with a seat belt - so you have min movement) and it purely focusing on the triceps - of course there will be a slight carry over to chest/shoulders again but because of the way you are stationed it would be very mininal.
When I am doing dips I could do 3 x 6 and I'll be pumped as fuck through the chest/shoulders/triceps - when doing the machine I will only feel it through the triceps.
They are totally diff though I would never suggest someone pick one over the other - I see dips as somewhat the squat of the upper body - the tricep machine is simply just a machine to hit your triceps.
Dips are more of a full upper body movement using the chest/front shoulders/triceps/even your back to a degree.
Machine your sitting there - alot of cases strapping yourself in (with a seat belt - so you have min movement) and it purely focusing on the triceps - of course there will be a slight carry over to chest/shoulders again but because of the way you are stationed it would be very mininal.
When I am doing dips I could do 3 x 6 and I'll be pumped as fuck through the chest/shoulders/triceps - when doing the machine I will only feel it through the triceps.
They are totally diff though I would never suggest someone pick one over the other - I see dips as somewhat the squat of the upper body - the tricep machine is simply just a machine to hit your triceps.
not wanting to argue though, we will agree to disagree, in my minds eye regardless as to whether the hip is strapped in or not, the muscles doing the mechanical will be the tricep.
The deltoids, the pecs and the lats and friends are doing their best to maintain shoulder integrity.
Sitting in a dip machine doing dips is like doing squats in a smith machine. The movement is set to a defined path and your core muscles don't get a chance to work. More so with weighted dips, I find the pecs, abs and lats get way pumped up compared to just strapped in a chair pushing some levers down.
Sitting in a dip machine doing dips is like doing squats in a smith machine. The movement is set to a defined path and your core muscles don't get a chance to work. More so with weighted dips, I find the pecs, abs and lats get way pumped up compared to just strapped in a chair pushing some levers down.
Its not ment to be the same exercise though - its ment to isolate the triceps/its purely a tricep exercise - thats what it was designed to to. I wouldnt compare tricep pressdowns to say pushups....
I just can't see how it can isolate the movement purely to the tri's. It's the same as doing dips but you're pushing a weight stack instead of your bodyweight no?