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Yeah man, totally going to injure myself doing that. Power reverse curl singles at 60% of 1RM are so much worse than doing 30 shitty snatches in a row for time. Your argument is 100% founded on logic and reason and I wouldn't be surprised if I woke up tomorrow and lost close to 90% of all the functionality I have gained from lifting
Look I do like a good Crossfit witch burning as much as anyone else, but you do have to admit that you can't just paint every affiliate with the same brush. Even in Mildura we have one box that does proper weight training with a former powerlifter, and another that does the sterotypical shitty form WOD wankery.
The other day I had to carry a 40kg bulky as fark printer 100m down the main street of town. It was at this point I realized just how functional all those deadlifts and farmer's walks really are (IT nerd by occupation)
Yeah. I could clean 125 when I could deadlift 200. Can deadlift close to 100kg more now and doubt my clean is any better. Admittedly I haven't been practicing it.
I was similar, 120kg power cleans when doing 215kg dead lift (early 1980s), although did not do latter much then. In fact, I did deadlifts maybe twice in first five years of weights training.
2011, my best power clean was 115kg and did 230kg deadlift in comp, but had learnt a few tricks with deadlift.
I think fast movements require a bit more athleticism, and getting older with accumulated injuries does not help.
Still I would love to get 110kg power clean this year ... and push press it.
However, what I call a power clean, is a clean with a wide stance, not a strict power clean.
I was similar, 120kg power cleans when doing 215kg dead lift (early 1980s), although did not do latter much then. In fact, I did deadlifts maybe twice in first five ears of weights.
2011, my best power clean was 115kg and did 230kg in comp, but had learnt a few tricks with deadlift.
I think fast movements require a bit more athleticism, and getting older does not help.
My power clean technique is pretty poor in the sense I have to lift in a way to use my much stronger back.
Unfortunately, for all of my years training, my leg development has always lagged because I did not do enough proper squatting (Olympic style and using legs rather than back).
In regard to thread, I agree with Bazza as there are 'many ways to train for many different goals'.
Crossfit is a sound way to train, but personally I don't think one needs to do either Olympic or powerlifts in a serious way for most fitness or sport aims.
Again, they are highly specific skills which require considerable effort and time to master. Crossfit uses all lifts, so some training in them is required for success in that sport. and people who do crossfit, obviously enjoy doing a variety of olympic lifting related lifts.
crossfit is a sport and people train to get better at it, it's not designed to be a pursuit of "healthy"
its a good money maker, f45 is following the model, don't be ignorant.
In regard to thread, I agree with Bazza as there are 'many ways to train for many different goals'.
Crossfit is a sound way to train, but personally I don't think one needs to do either Olympic or powerlifts in a serious way for most fitness or sport aims.
Again, they are highly specific skills which require considerable effort and time to master. Crossfit uses all lifts, so some training in them is required for success in that sport. and people who do crossfit, obviously enjoy doing a variety of olympic lifting related lifts.
Im black and white about workouts, it must be brutal, short, not fun, it must hurt like a bitch you should be sweating, your heart thumping and above all it must be super, super safe.
Powerlifting right now is as much a fad as CrossFit for a lot of people unfortunately, and being able to tag your cool online programmer in your squat videos online is the cool thing. On the one hand that's wack on the other hand those guys are paying meet fees and buying ever product under the sun
Powerlifting is no better or worse than crossfit. Both are sports with their own training style. Just that crossfit is much more successful at selling its training method.