I'm talking about back angle. So I'm suppose to be leaning all the way over rather than half way ish. Thanks, I have watched people stand in a different position where they are squatting down back only half way bent and they pull the bar over the legs (almost touching and in some cases touching the legs by accident) so the bar is being pull backwards and upwards at the same time
I don't quite understand how people can get this so wrong.
To make the most of the exercise your torso needs to be horizontal, you need to imagine that the resistance is being applied to the back of the elbow, rather than in the hands.
If you are unable to bring your shoulder blades together you have too much weight on the bar.
Single arm rows with a dumbbell on a bench are a good exercise to use for a beginner.
Actually a safer alternative to the barbell for biulding back strength.
Pendlay rows and bent rows are 2 different exercises
Single arm rows with a dumbbell on a bench are a good exercise to use for a beginner.
Actually a safer alternative to the barbell for biulding back strength.
Good for lower back but as its primarily a lat exercise and does very little for the rear delts and rhomboids, its not good unless you combine it with a good amount of facepulls or barbell rows with arms flared.
I sound like a broken record here but this just keeps getting ignored and I can assure you doing dumbell rows alone as a pulling movement will fuck you up.
Good for lower back but as its primarily a lat exercise and does very little for the rear delts and rhomboids, its not good unless you combine it with a good amount of facepulls or barbell rows with arms flared.
I sound like a broken record here but this just keeps getting ignored and I can assure you doing dumbell rows alone as a pulling movement will fuck you up.
Lol^^^
That's why we call him Kuntze... He can be so kunty...
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I read what your saying
As the muscles of the back pretty much work together here, your comment is a given and nothing new.
Secondly.
The row in its many forms is an overall back developer and you are just fuckin plain wrong and or just plain stupid to suggest that it is a primary lat builder.
Pretty sure he was saying that dumbbell rows are primarily lats, not that rows in general are primarily lats. Although I could be mistaken.
jj80, I've found that I can activate my rhomboids and lower traps a lot with close-grip seated rows (although I've recently come to prefer using a wider handle and flaring my elbows more), but with one-arm dumbbell rows it's almost all lat work.
all this time arguing about rowing could be used actually rowing
there are lots of variations, why not try them all at some stage? Pendlays, reverse grip, kroc rows....inverted rows and lets not forget pull-ups as a good back builder too!
I have personal experience - strong lats, weak ass piss delts, weak rhomboids, hunched posture - from concentrating on dumbell rows and relying on them as an overall back builder that tells me they're piss poor in this respect.
I have a physio who weight lifted for Australia telling me the same thing.
I have Hamburgler who I believe is a powerlifting coach reiterating the statement in another thread.
Who knows though, we could all be wrong and Goosey could be right. I would strongly urge people to do a variety of rows or supplement with face pulls or 'elbows flared' rows though, and not just use dumbells.
I am just trying to warn others against focussing on dumbell rows and chins as sole 'pulling movements' to prevent themselves getting injured.
I did dumbell rows and chins for about a year to develop the hunched posture. By the end I was rowing 30kg with strict form for 10-15 reps and able to do a chin up with 60kg attached to me at 104kg bodyweight. I didn't neglect dumbell rows or chins by any stretch of the imagination, yet my rhomboids and rear delts were very weak.
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