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Feel like I've reached a plateau - require knowledge! Or have I?

Puggy said:
Man, I find it hard to get one group in under 45 minutes. Calves was a poor example tbh.
Dave's doing a really good job if he can get it done in under 90!
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Doing the math,

each set is 30-60 seconds (call it a minute) with equal rest time between sets. 6 sets per exersize = 12-15 minutes.
3-4 exersizes = 36-60 minutes depending on rest times, or extra exersize/sets.

this can blow out a little if I am waiting for a machine/ bar etc.

i always wear headphones. And listen to music, and try to avoid talking to other members or waiting too long for next exersize. I like to bombard the muscle with reps for as much of the 45-60 minutes as possible and get out and eat/ rest.






I always wear headphones, try not to talk to anyone and get in and get out.
 
Yeah man, sounds like you got a good thing happening. I usually can get going pretty well.
Usually I ignore everyone and just go ham. Always room for improvement though.

Davepuppies said:
Doing the math,

each set is 30-60 seconds (call it a minute) with equal rest time between sets. 6 sets per exersize = 12-15 minutes.
3-4 exersizes = 36-60 minutes depending on rest times, or extra exersize/sets.

this can blow out a little if I am waiting for a machine/ bar etc.

i always wear headphones. And listen to music, and try to avoid talking to other members or waiting too long for next exersize. I like to bombard the muscle with reps for as much of the 45-60 minutes as possible and get out and eat/ rest.






I always wear headphones, try not to talk to anyone and get in and get out.
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Fadi said:
So by implication, anyone training less than 45 minutes can not be serious. Would that be right?
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Pretty much.

We all end up with time constraints but how many people end up good at something by doing it less than 45min a day.
 
If your dedicated to get better/be good at something you'll make all the time in the world for it. Arnie spent 6 hours a day in the bloody gym, Olympic athletes wake, train, eat, train, eat then sleep. But it doesn't mean you can't be serious @ something. Maybe just not great.
 
Bazza20 said:
Pretty much.

We all end up with time constraints but how many people end up good at something by doing it less than 45min a day.
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So if for example you're one of those bodybuilders who like to train one body part during a session, would not 45 minutes be enough in your opinion to give enough stimulation to those muscle fibers in question? After all, how many sets would a body part require and what sort of rest interval would one want to take if muscle fiber stimulation is the aim here? Keep in mind, I am making a distinction between maximum muscle fiber exhaustion and not maximum muscle fiber recruitment through low rep type of training. The latter does require much more time between sets to allow for full recovery of the nervous system, and the goal would be mainly a gain in strength over and above an increase in the size of one's muscle fibers.
 
JazDSpaz said:
If your dedicated to get better/be good at something you'll make all the time in the world for it. Arnie spent 6 hours a day in the bloody gym, Olympic athletes wake, train, eat, train, eat then sleep. But it doesn't mean you can't be serious @ something. Maybe just not great.
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It all goes back to what your sport requires of you to do.
 
Fadi said:
So if for example you're one of those bodybuilders who like to train one body part during a session, would not 45 minutes be enough in your opinion to give enough stimulation to those muscle fibers in question? After all, how many sets would a body part require and what sort of rest interval would one want to take if muscle fiber stimulation is the aim here? Keep in mind, I am making a distinction between maximum muscle fiber exhaustion and not maximum muscle fiber recruitment through low rep type of training. The latter does require much more time between sets to allow for full recovery of the nervous system, and the goal would be mainly a gain in strength over and above an increase in the size of one's muscle fibers.
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Probably not cut out to be a bodybuilder then.
 
Alright, there is your answer, spend fours a day every week, hell why not five.

what a load of bullocks.

bodybiulding is about (ATM) the genetically gifted and drugs.

has nothing to do with time spent in the gym.
 
I've taken on board all the advice I have been giving and am working towards getting some coaching in person, or maybe online. Benson Milgate is a local down here, he just came 4th in the Mens Super Heavy Weights down at the Arnold, and I'm thinking of getting a few sessions with him.

I've altered all my works to max of 45 minutes each. So the most amount of time I spend in the gym is 90 minutes. I'll probably do 3 x 45 minute and 2 x 90 minute workouts a week, so I have plenty of time to rest.

I've got a changed mindset about the equilibrium of training and rest.
Headphones in, working hard. Let's do it.
 
Bazza20 said:
Anyone training serous for something is going to put more that 45min a day into it. That's fine if that's not what you want.
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I am sorry but how do you come up with that? What is the time period where a trainer is serious and not? is 44mins not serious but 46 is?

Very strange comment - also when you include cardio and other non-weight related sessions - how do you figure these in?

If I do 45 mins of weights > hour of cardio - should I be doing 2 hours in total to be serious?


I guess your a man who likes scientific proof on facts people raise - could you provide any evidence advising that anyone training under 45 mins is not serious about training?

You do know a LARGE % of natural bodybuilders follow the max-ot/heavy duty approach to training where sessions last 30-45 mins on avg, what about guys like Mike Mentzer, DORIAN YATES, Skip La Cour - one of the best ever natural bodybuilders etc etc


Sometimes you are really out of your depth with comments and simply like to stir the pot....
 
Darkoz said:
We're talking exercise here Bazza, not skill
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Yep, I should of just said that.

This topic has always fascinated me, and it irritates when a bloke says I'm going to gym to train.

lifting weight is an extremely low skilled activity. Should be.
 
Rugby88 said:
I am sorry but how do you come up with that? What is the time period where a trainer is serious and not? is 44mins not serious but 46 is?

Very strange comment - also when you include cardio and other non-weight related sessions - how do you figure these in?

If I do 45 mins of weights > hour of cardio - should I be doing 2 hours in total to be serious?


I guess your a man who likes scientific proof on facts people raise - could you provide any evidence advising that anyone training under 45 mins is not serious about training?

You do know a LARGE % of natural bodybuilders follow the max-ot/heavy duty approach to training where sessions last 30-45 mins on avg, what about guys like Mike Mentzer, DORIAN YATES, Skip La Cour - one of the best ever natural bodybuilders etc etc


Sometimes you are really out of your depth with comments and simply like to stir the pot....
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Yeah, shit happens, just look at your face.
 
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