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Robert Wilkes Capo
spartacus
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Not sure how well it is going now. Lots of lifters have left for CAPO and PA, and some prominent memebers have retired.
It used to pay for its own tests, albiet just a small no. of tests. Again, also would have small no. of members.
Australian Drug Free Powerlifting Federation
It used to pay for its own tests, albiet just a small no. of tests. Again, also would have small no. of members.
Australian Drug Free Powerlifting Federation
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strong enough?
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ADFPA has a WADA compliant anti-doping policy. It's exactly the same pro forma used by PA and all the other sports tested by ASADA. But they have to pay for their own testing. Its a pretty small federation concentrated in a few regional areas in Vic, NSW and SA.
They don't publish much info on how many tests they do but it looks like less than 10 tests a year, in competition only. Their AGM says they would test 3 individual lifters at their Nationals, their biggest comp. It was announced how many tests they would be doing before the event as well.
They don't publish much info on how many tests they do but it looks like less than 10 tests a year, in competition only. Their AGM says they would test 3 individual lifters at their Nationals, their biggest comp. It was announced how many tests they would be doing before the event as well.
spartacus
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Interestingly, the GB version of the Aust Drug Free Powerlifting Federation appears to have more tests that GB's IPF version. 35 in 2012, with 2 caught lifters banned for life.
http://www.bdfpa.co.uk/drugcontrol/BDFPA%20DRUGS%20TESTS-12.pdf
http://www.bdfpa.co.uk/drugcontrol/BDFPA%20DRUGS%20TESTS-12.pdf
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strong enough?
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For what it's worth, the former IPF affiliate in the US was USPF, as it had been for many many years. They did something like 100 drug tests a year. The IPF considered them to be dragging the chain, gave them the boot and the US affiliate of the WDFPA, formerly called ADFPA (American drug free powerlifting association) got given the IPF affiliate and renamed itself USAPL.
Too many acronyms
spartacus
Well-known member
that is indeed interesting, at least for me.
The politics of powerlifting would make a great (and timely) academic article.
I think i am going to go ahead with it. In my opinion, the debate on powerlifting has become a bit one-sided given recent events, and i think all sides need to be displayed to provide a more balanced portrayal of the sport in australia.
I have said it before on many occasions; there are good people in all feds and the various arguments made by all should be on the public record.
The politics of powerlifting would make a great (and timely) academic article.
I think i am going to go ahead with it. In my opinion, the debate on powerlifting has become a bit one-sided given recent events, and i think all sides need to be displayed to provide a more balanced portrayal of the sport in australia.
I have said it before on many occasions; there are good people in all feds and the various arguments made by all should be on the public record.
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spartacus
Well-known member
What does that mean SP?
Does that mean that no one has a right to say anythign beyond what Wilks has said?
I mean did you not go on to TV and say something?
Does that mean that any non-PA person cannot comment?
Does that mean that CAPO or any other fed should not have right of reply?
Does that mean that the public can be convinced that CAPO is a criminal orgnisation and accept its fate?
Hey, i have a right to write what i like. You can bet that what ever i do will be balanced and fair.
I have also been a CAPO and PA member and am quite aware of historical debates about the sport, and the issue of drugs in sport. i am also very capable of higlighting hypocrisy should i find it.
If you want to contribute, along with any other person of and fed, feel free to contact me. It will be a thoroughly researched paper.
Does that mean that no one has a right to say anythign beyond what Wilks has said?
I mean did you not go on to TV and say something?
Does that mean that any non-PA person cannot comment?
Does that mean that CAPO or any other fed should not have right of reply?
Does that mean that the public can be convinced that CAPO is a criminal orgnisation and accept its fate?
Hey, i have a right to write what i like. You can bet that what ever i do will be balanced and fair.
I have also been a CAPO and PA member and am quite aware of historical debates about the sport, and the issue of drugs in sport. i am also very capable of higlighting hypocrisy should i find it.
If you want to contribute, along with any other person of and fed, feel free to contact me. It will be a thoroughly researched paper.
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spartacus
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I will be promoting the sport.
I just think all of the facts should be out there.
You would agree that they are not at present.
To be honest, you cant really promote the sport without referring to all of the components of powerlifting in Australia. While there are a few, along with PA, that have done a great job boosting numbers, the debate has now entered a new dangerous stage where an exaggeration of differences has the potential to target some and favour others.
Therefore, any resolution that takes place (should events escelate), needs to take into consideration the various realities that exist here and overseas in the sport. In other words, any argument needs to be sure they are actually factual, whether it concerns the affiliaton of naitonal organisations with the IPF, the nature and extent of drug testing here and overseas, and even transparency in the sport.
I just think all of the facts should be out there.
You would agree that they are not at present.
To be honest, you cant really promote the sport without referring to all of the components of powerlifting in Australia. While there are a few, along with PA, that have done a great job boosting numbers, the debate has now entered a new dangerous stage where an exaggeration of differences has the potential to target some and favour others.
Therefore, any resolution that takes place (should events escelate), needs to take into consideration the various realities that exist here and overseas in the sport. In other words, any argument needs to be sure they are actually factual, whether it concerns the affiliaton of naitonal organisations with the IPF, the nature and extent of drug testing here and overseas, and even transparency in the sport.
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spartacus
Well-known member
that is fine, i tend to respond too quickly.
I think the sport can indeed be promoted, albeit in a climate where drug use and testing it is hardly going to go away, yet also refer to important differences between federations and how they may or may not be overcome.
That would be my aim.
I would also agree focus should be on national, but it would be impossible to discuss the link of drugs in sport without some referral to internaitonal situation.
I think the sport can indeed be promoted, albeit in a climate where drug use and testing it is hardly going to go away, yet also refer to important differences between federations and how they may or may not be overcome.
That would be my aim.
I would also agree focus should be on national, but it would be impossible to discuss the link of drugs in sport without some referral to internaitonal situation.
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spartacus
Well-known member
If anyone has any objections, ideas how to improve sport, reasons why they in certain feds, or anything else that maybe relevant, please email me.
I will keep all emails private and only use quoted infromation with permission from author.
c11lewis@yahoo.com.au
I will keep all emails private and only use quoted infromation with permission from author.
c11lewis@yahoo.com.au
spartacus
Well-known member
It is funny how history evolves.
In 1989-90, the Senate committee recommended that the Aust Drug free powerlifting Fed be the powerlifting fed that received public funding, not PA. This was later rejected by the Govt.
Recommendation 20, chapter also has some amusing reading in the early days of drug-tested powerlifting
http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=robeert%20wilks%20senate%20inquiry%20&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDYQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aph.gov.au%2FParliamentary_Business%2FCommittees%2FSenate_Committees%3Furl%3Decita_ctte%2Fcompleted_inquiries%2Fpre1996%2Fdrug-2nd%2F08ch8.pdf&ei=iYSHUdOYLeyTiAefmYCwBw&usg=AFQjCNEfHxEmvt-mMHqDf4gosaJkk9A5rg
In 1989-90, the Senate committee recommended that the Aust Drug free powerlifting Fed be the powerlifting fed that received public funding, not PA. This was later rejected by the Govt.
Recommendation 20, chapter also has some amusing reading in the early days of drug-tested powerlifting
http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=robeert%20wilks%20senate%20inquiry%20&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDYQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aph.gov.au%2FParliamentary_Business%2FCommittees%2FSenate_Committees%3Furl%3Decita_ctte%2Fcompleted_inquiries%2Fpre1996%2Fdrug-2nd%2F08ch8.pdf&ei=iYSHUdOYLeyTiAefmYCwBw&usg=AFQjCNEfHxEmvt-mMHqDf4gosaJkk9A5rg
spartacus
Well-known member
Maybe, but the Senate Committe had some interesting things to say about PA then. Enough to convince them that an alternative fed should be the one getting public funding, despite PA's association with the IPF.
Interesting stuff.
I would say Govt stuffed up then, as same divisions still evident today.
Interesting stuff.
I would say Govt stuffed up then, as same divisions still evident today.
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vonfram88
Active member
From what I saw in the four corners interview, some of the sanctimonious twaddle that was uttered has the potential to target all and damage all.
Reading through the senate enquiry again there were some "irregular" testing practices that might have a benefited a few of the celebrities at that time. Presided over by............
Throwing stones is dangerous in a glass house.
spartacus
Well-known member
vonfram, yes, i have also thought that.
Though certain players are on the front foot, the strategy does run the risk of backfiring and adversely affecting powerlifting in general.
That is why different tactics should have been adopted rather than an us-and-them approach, again given the facts and despite the new context of the day.
To be honest, from looking at the Senate inquiry, i think it is the govt that is the biggest culrpit for the mess that became of powerlifting. Some of the flaws that exist today, were evident back then. The govt of the day should have done much more, but not necessarily to simply favour PA and the IPF. There were real reasons for divsions, and they could not be swept away.
Though certain players are on the front foot, the strategy does run the risk of backfiring and adversely affecting powerlifting in general.
That is why different tactics should have been adopted rather than an us-and-them approach, again given the facts and despite the new context of the day.
To be honest, from looking at the Senate inquiry, i think it is the govt that is the biggest culrpit for the mess that became of powerlifting. Some of the flaws that exist today, were evident back then. The govt of the day should have done much more, but not necessarily to simply favour PA and the IPF. There were real reasons for divsions, and they could not be swept away.
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