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PTC: That storage makes the rack extra awesome because the weight is spread out over a bigger base. Its almost exactly like the models they have at eliteFTS (cept chinese steel) and its very popular with a lot of rugby teams. You made a great pick.
And what the hells with not counting the bars? they're 20kg!
Also - whats the deal with you and your belt grudge?
does your gym put lifters in the IPF?
And what the hells with not counting the bars? they're 20kg!
Also - whats the deal with you and your belt grudge?
does your gym put lifters in the IPF?
katie
New member
nice rack Oliver, but I must admit, all I could see were the yellow rockclimbing holds behind it!
Ahhhhhhh, good to hear, you fit right into ausbb.
Ahhhhhhh, good to hear, you fit right into ausbb.
Belts are for discos Oli, we build our own.
At first everyone was dubious about not wearing a belt, I simply wouldnt allow them.
Now you feel like a dick wearing a belt while deadlifting 4 plates and some kid is pulling more and weighing less without one. Forty two lifters have deadlifted 200kg + without one. I think its around 10 have pulled 250kg+ without one.
Same goes for the squat, you feel super strong in your commercial gym, whack the belt on at 140kg, make sure the crowd notices. You walk into PTC and a 17yo is doing cardio with your 1RM.....and no belt. I think its around 20 lifters have squatted 180kg + without one at PTC.
If a belt was of any use, wouldnt every single Olympic lifter wear one, considering medals are lost on bodyweight, competition is that tight.
I hate them, my clients hate them, very uncomfortable.
If they dont like my rules, they can always lift somewhere else.
As far as IPF, I dont like powerlifting competition at all. Hate the arch, suits, wraps, belts, shallow squats, wide stance, wide grip, belly benching, monolift etc
Come to Australia Day 10, you will be converted, plus you would absolutely love it. Fifty like minded lifters in a super friendly enviroment. Do it. Do it. Do it.
At first everyone was dubious about not wearing a belt, I simply wouldnt allow them.
Now you feel like a dick wearing a belt while deadlifting 4 plates and some kid is pulling more and weighing less without one. Forty two lifters have deadlifted 200kg + without one. I think its around 10 have pulled 250kg+ without one.
Same goes for the squat, you feel super strong in your commercial gym, whack the belt on at 140kg, make sure the crowd notices. You walk into PTC and a 17yo is doing cardio with your 1RM.....and no belt. I think its around 20 lifters have squatted 180kg + without one at PTC.
If a belt was of any use, wouldnt every single Olympic lifter wear one, considering medals are lost on bodyweight, competition is that tight.
I hate them, my clients hate them, very uncomfortable.
If they dont like my rules, they can always lift somewhere else.
As far as IPF, I dont like powerlifting competition at all. Hate the arch, suits, wraps, belts, shallow squats, wide stance, wide grip, belly benching, monolift etc
Come to Australia Day 10, you will be converted, plus you would absolutely love it. Fifty like minded lifters in a super friendly enviroment. Do it. Do it. Do it.
J
JaseFit
Guest
Mate, forget the emery paper - you will be there for years! Get yourself a small angle grinder with a wire wheel attachment or at the very least a drill with wire wheel attachment and you strip the rust off quick smart - it'll be as good as new.
Ahhhhhhh, good to hear, you fit right into ausbb.
*Frightened by injoke :O*
I don’t agree here sorry. The thing I like about a belt is it allows you to stay tight under the squat – it’s a safety issue. I’d count a belt as ‘raw’ and I think most would for this reason, it doesn’t necessarily increase a lift like a bench shirt does.
The reason why Olympic lifters don’t wear them is because a 4” 13mm belt is going to cause problems with a clean and jerk that requires a lot of movement.
I really like the IPF, I was going to join but the whole based in Sydney thing was a turnoff as well as the suits. You’re looking at paying a lot of money for a decent suit and need to replace them regularly, not to mention you can’t just go out and buy a super kantana and bench – you need a ‘beginners’ suit.
Where is that Australia day thing? It sounds fun!
I get different stories for what I need to do with everyone! I think I’m just gonna go into bunnings with a photo of the rack and $100 and ask what I need.
Two years, 42 lifters pulling 200kg+, 3 lifters squatting 200kg+, 50 lifters powercleaning 100kg, 5 girls deadlifting 125kg+
Zero back injuries. Its a phurphy. Belts are for weak minds, not weak backs. I've got one guy who flat out refused to deadlift without a belt, gym owner, PB of 200kg. He now deadlifts 200kg x 10 and 251kg x 1....no belt, no worries. He also squats 150kg x 20 and 185kg x 1...still no belt.
He has had back issues in the past. Never again, we just strengthened his core, and his mind.
I dont expect nor do I want to change anyones mind, I really dont care what others do outside PTC. You simply cant use one here.
As far as AD10 goes, its my 5 lift comps, check them out on my website, I'm not allowed to post links to my website, but you'll work it out, its called PTC and its in Frankston lol
We squat, bench, deadlift, clean and clean and press/push press/jerk.
Your total is calculated and we use a Wilks score to work out the winner. Last comp was Bash at the Beach 3.
A lifter called Chris won. He totalled 851kg @ 92.3kg
bench 152.5 (close grip, injured shoulder)
Squat 197.5kg ( 200kg fourth attempt)
powerclean 117.5kg
clean and push press 120kg ( cleaned better second time around)
deadlift 266kg
I dont have to mention he didnt wear a belt lol
There are pics and vids of our comps on the website
Chris 266kg...no belt
Simon 250kg...no belt
Matt 240kg....no belt
Shorty 212.5kg @ 70kg....no belt
Brendon 230kg....no belt
James 160kg @ 60yo....no belt
Nick 205kg...no belt
If my clients get injuredand cant train, I dont get paid, my kids dont eat. If there was any chance of getting injured not wearing a belt, why would I take that risk? To prove what.
the fact is, most dont understand why they first put a belt on, then it becomes a security blanket. As a father of 5, I know how to ween lifters off security blankets.
If you do decide to come, and dont plan to go dancing, leave your belt at home, with your gloves lol, I know you dont wear gloves, there for whimps, right?
Quite a few of the lifters in pics are members on here
Zero back injuries. Its a phurphy. Belts are for weak minds, not weak backs. I've got one guy who flat out refused to deadlift without a belt, gym owner, PB of 200kg. He now deadlifts 200kg x 10 and 251kg x 1....no belt, no worries. He also squats 150kg x 20 and 185kg x 1...still no belt.
He has had back issues in the past. Never again, we just strengthened his core, and his mind.
I dont expect nor do I want to change anyones mind, I really dont care what others do outside PTC. You simply cant use one here.
As far as AD10 goes, its my 5 lift comps, check them out on my website, I'm not allowed to post links to my website, but you'll work it out, its called PTC and its in Frankston lol
We squat, bench, deadlift, clean and clean and press/push press/jerk.
Your total is calculated and we use a Wilks score to work out the winner. Last comp was Bash at the Beach 3.
A lifter called Chris won. He totalled 851kg @ 92.3kg
bench 152.5 (close grip, injured shoulder)
Squat 197.5kg ( 200kg fourth attempt)
powerclean 117.5kg
clean and push press 120kg ( cleaned better second time around)
deadlift 266kg
I dont have to mention he didnt wear a belt lol
There are pics and vids of our comps on the website
Chris 266kg...no belt
Simon 250kg...no belt
Matt 240kg....no belt
Shorty 212.5kg @ 70kg....no belt
Brendon 230kg....no belt
James 160kg @ 60yo....no belt
Nick 205kg...no belt
If my clients get injuredand cant train, I dont get paid, my kids dont eat. If there was any chance of getting injured not wearing a belt, why would I take that risk? To prove what.
the fact is, most dont understand why they first put a belt on, then it becomes a security blanket. As a father of 5, I know how to ween lifters off security blankets.
If you do decide to come, and dont plan to go dancing, leave your belt at home, with your gloves lol, I know you dont wear gloves, there for whimps, right?
Quite a few of the lifters in pics are members on here
J
Josh_GTiR
Guest
I think belts are dangerous. If you spend a heap of time lifting with one you are neglecting your core and that is when injuries can happen outside of lifting, some parts of your body will be stronger than others. Your core is probably the most important in heavy lifting.
Z
Zarkov
Guest
My opinion,most (but not all) belt wearers are wankers.
And all wankers wear belts.
And all wankers wear belts.
sorry about my late reply. I've had exams these past few days and haven't had a lot of time to type a response.
Some comments really miss the point of what the belt does. Because you're wearing a belt doesn't mean your abdominals magically fall asleep and don't get worked - they're just stabilized, and even if it were more than that your abs are going to get plenty of work from your warm ups/non maximal work.
Everyone has some spinal flex in the squat, you can keep your form tight but its an inevitable part of lifting maximal weights (just check out some matt kroc videos of him in the bottom of his squat). The belt helps with this and creates a more stable and smoother ride which helps you lift more weight safely. It can hardly be compared to a bench shirt with bouncy elastic in it.
PTC: you seem like a really awesome guy and I dont want to offend you but I really dont agree with you. The reason you dont have any injuries is because lifting in a controlled environment like that is a very safe sport anyway. Me, I like the smoother ride of a belt and if it allows me to lift more weight safely then I'm not bothered by it.
note: at the moment I don't actually wear a belt because every time I save the money for one something comes up. I plan to add one in the future though, along with the 0.5" rogues when they come out.
Anyways, I think I'll start a log here for my second year of lifting. Please check it out if you've got some time
Some comments really miss the point of what the belt does. Because you're wearing a belt doesn't mean your abdominals magically fall asleep and don't get worked - they're just stabilized, and even if it were more than that your abs are going to get plenty of work from your warm ups/non maximal work.
Everyone has some spinal flex in the squat, you can keep your form tight but its an inevitable part of lifting maximal weights (just check out some matt kroc videos of him in the bottom of his squat). The belt helps with this and creates a more stable and smoother ride which helps you lift more weight safely. It can hardly be compared to a bench shirt with bouncy elastic in it.
PTC: you seem like a really awesome guy and I dont want to offend you but I really dont agree with you. The reason you dont have any injuries is because lifting in a controlled environment like that is a very safe sport anyway. Me, I like the smoother ride of a belt and if it allows me to lift more weight safely then I'm not bothered by it.
note: at the moment I don't actually wear a belt because every time I save the money for one something comes up. I plan to add one in the future though, along with the 0.5" rogues when they come out.
Anyways, I think I'll start a log here for my second year of lifting. Please check it out if you've got some time
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I know I'm in the minority with my view on belts, it doesnt bother me, all the weak lifters have a right to be wrong lol
I've had way too much experience weening babys off belts, then have them obliterate their PB's to even consider for 1 second that a belt helps your body lift more weight, its your mind you need to train.
I've had way too much experience weening babys off belts, then have them obliterate their PB's to even consider for 1 second that a belt helps your body lift more weight, its your mind you need to train.
Powerlifters dont squat correctly, they need belts.
we squat for power and development, we lengthen the ROM, not limit it.
What a powerlifter does is turn a squat into an abortion.
If you plan to compete in powerlifting, then by all means do as they do.
But if I have a 17yo kid squatting 2.3 x bodyweight WITHOUT a belt, you better have a pretty good reason for wearing one if your squating less.
Feel free to do what you like when your squatting 250kg, but until you actually start lifting heavy weights or can squat double bodyweight x 10, leave the belts to the Judo guys
Your argument about them means nothing, unless they prove they can squat more with them.
Heres a test, put double bodyweight on a bar and see how many high bar full squats you can do without a belt. Then do low bar half squats with a belt like a powerlifter and see if you can do more reps that way.
we squat for power and development, we lengthen the ROM, not limit it.
What a powerlifter does is turn a squat into an abortion.
If you plan to compete in powerlifting, then by all means do as they do.
But if I have a 17yo kid squatting 2.3 x bodyweight WITHOUT a belt, you better have a pretty good reason for wearing one if your squating less.
Feel free to do what you like when your squatting 250kg, but until you actually start lifting heavy weights or can squat double bodyweight x 10, leave the belts to the Judo guys
Your argument about them means nothing, unless they prove they can squat more with them.
Heres a test, put double bodyweight on a bar and see how many high bar full squats you can do without a belt. Then do low bar half squats with a belt like a powerlifter and see if you can do more reps that way.
dr00
New member
sorry about my late reply. I've had exams these past few days and haven't had a lot of time to type a response.
Some comments really miss the point of what the belt does. Because you're wearing a belt doesn't mean your abdominals magically fall asleep and don't get worked - they're just stabilized, and even if it were more than that your abs are going to get plenty of work from your warm ups/non maximal work.
Everyone has some spinal flex in the squat, you can keep your form tight but its an inevitable part of lifting maximal weights (just check out some matt kroc videos of him in the bottom of his squat). The belt helps with this and creates a more stable and smoother ride which helps you lift more weight safely. It can hardly be compared to a bench shirt with bouncy elastic in it.
PTC: you seem like a really awesome guy and I dont want to offend you but I really dont agree with you. The reason you dont have any injuries is because lifting in a controlled environment like that is a very safe sport anyway. Me, I like the smoother ride of a belt and if it allows me to lift more weight safely then I'm not bothered by it.
note: at the moment I don't actually wear a belt because every time I save the money for one something comes up. I plan to add one in the future though, along with the 0.5" rogues when they come out.
Anyways, I think I'll start a log here for my second year of lifting. Please check it out if you've got some time
you could use the exact same argument for squatting in a smith machine.
Update: I've been waiting a ****ing month for this rack, everything keeps getting in the way!
- I was held back 2 weeks to pick the thing up due to exams
- The galvanisers LOST the rack for an entire week, I found out when I wrang to collect it. It will probably be ready by wednesday.
- After that I wont be able to pick it up until the following week - my dad's work implemented a new policy which means he cant leave despite having periods off (its his trailer)
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- I was held back 2 weeks to pick the thing up due to exams
- The galvanisers LOST the rack for an entire week, I found out when I wrang to collect it. It will probably be ready by wednesday.
- After that I wont be able to pick it up until the following week - my dad's work implemented a new policy which means he cant leave despite having periods off (its his trailer)
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