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Kristos broke the all time squat and deadlift record at 67.5kg
WoodyAllen
Well-known member
vonfram88
Active member
Impressivitis Quotient?
Seriously, comparing a wrapped monolift partial squat to Olympic lifting is like comparing an oil tanker to an aircraft carrier.
0ni
Registered Rustler
Yeah.... about that
bozodos
Member
typical PL thread is typical lol...
No doubt that guy is insanely strong no matter which way you put it.
Thing is though, why do these other federations insist on Monolift / wraps, and squatting the bare minimum amount of depth (from the videos I've seen, mainly PTC)? Wouldn't it be in everyone's best interests (and less drama / argument over records or judging) to have everyone across feds doing the same movements in the same way? This is from a non powerlifter POV, so don't flame me.
INB4 0ni calls me or someone else a "fucking retard".
No doubt that guy is insanely strong no matter which way you put it.
Thing is though, why do these other federations insist on Monolift / wraps, and squatting the bare minimum amount of depth (from the videos I've seen, mainly PTC)? Wouldn't it be in everyone's best interests (and less drama / argument over records or judging) to have everyone across feds doing the same movements in the same way? This is from a non powerlifter POV, so don't flame me.
INB4 0ni calls me or someone else a "fucking retard".
jzpowahz
Well-known member
Why would someone purposely squat far lower than the rule book requires if the aim of the game is to move the most amount of weight?
its a fine line between getting convincing depth that pleases the judges ,the audience and fellow competitors and squatting the biggest number possible.
Personally in my mind,being 1 mm under is technically a good squat but its hard to judge.
or im just getting old and need glasses?not sure.
Personally in my mind,being 1 mm under is technically a good squat but its hard to judge.
or im just getting old and need glasses?not sure.
Kyle Aaron
Active member
Same reason they don't all test for drugs, or they have single lift meets. Because they want to lift more weight.
But then they would lift less weight. And it'd be much harder to get people in the "top 10 squats of all time", etc.
If you can say, "we had a guy total 10 times his bodyweight" or "we had a guy total over 1,000kg" or "we had a guy squat 1,000lbs", this brings you glory and fame. The vast majority of people won't know the difference, they'll just see someone with a fucking humungous weight on their back or in their hands. The people who know the difference either don't care because they use a lot of that stuff too, or else they don't use it and don't think much of it, but these people are not the targets of the marketing - it's the wider public who don't know the difference.
Long-term it'd be better to toss aside all that stuff and just lift. Short-term you lift bigger numbers. Long-term you get illnesses and injuries (from drugs and equipped lifting) and alienate the general public and potential lifters from the sport (since, as in IPF's equipped-only days, people go "WTF is all this shit?") But short-term you get to put up bigger numbers.
People tend to focus on the short-term. Human nature.
Nonetheless, Kristos is strong as fuck, and did not need dodgy judging to get three white lights.
Fuzzy
New member
My god. Kyle and Chris. I think you lads really need to get off the forums and maybe train a little.
Whats ironic is is knowing ONI as I do now. It's amusing as hell watching him drop statements that make you all lose your collective shit. The response his oly comment has been hilarious.
I dont know what Kristos' Max Olympic squat is exactly but he did 5x5 oly style with 160. This is after squatting 260 and front squatted very easy 160ish.
Thank you for the laugh. ONI is now on his way to a 300kg deadlift next year and Kristos isn't done with the 67.5's
we can't impress everyone who prefers super super raw drug free ATg Asian squats without wraps belt or mono.
But then again knowing the average lift of most of the critics here ranges in the 3 plate area we will keep carrying on whilst many of you react hilariously to the best damn troll on this board.
Whats ironic is is knowing ONI as I do now. It's amusing as hell watching him drop statements that make you all lose your collective shit. The response his oly comment has been hilarious.
I dont know what Kristos' Max Olympic squat is exactly but he did 5x5 oly style with 160. This is after squatting 260 and front squatted very easy 160ish.
Thank you for the laugh. ONI is now on his way to a 300kg deadlift next year and Kristos isn't done with the 67.5's
we can't impress everyone who prefers super super raw drug free ATg Asian squats without wraps belt or mono.
But then again knowing the average lift of most of the critics here ranges in the 3 plate area we will keep carrying on whilst many of you react hilariously to the best damn troll on this board.
Fuzzy
New member
I used to be a mono hating tough guy. Then I opened a gym and ran competitions. Monos are simply the safest option for everyone. Not just the lifter but the spotters etc.
there is is no such thing as minimum depth. Depth is the same. Many federations (including gpc at times) have let high squats pass. Depth is depth. And Kristos squatted to depth. Gave it a little more to make it legit. And left it there. He's after an all time fucking record. Not how many raw raw 152.5kg squatters he can impress on the internet.
I like knee wraps and monos. I like deadlift bars. The overwhelming majority of my gym is drug free. A good chunk would rather compete at my meets than the turd drying boredom feet at PA. Luckily PA made if easy for me by hosting such a boring ass comp but this continuos insinuation that IPF style lifting is the 'right' way and people only do it other ways because they are cheater drug users is rather outdated.
vonfram88
Active member
five plates from this "critic" at the moment, six plates 25 years ago. Yawn........someone makes an association between a parallel depth wrapped squat and a 160kg clean it will bring out the critics. Almost every time I take my son to WL I see "Australian Record" squats from regular weightlifters, no wraps or shit and only a few of them can actually clean 160kg.
Get real, PL achievements are in no way comparable to OL.
Fuzzy
New member
Are you thick?
I told you oni trolled you.
I also said 'most' of the critics. You being an exception changes nothing.
I did oly lifting for years. I know the comparisons. Making speculations is completely asinine.
no wraps or shit. Good on you man. You are so super hardcore and raw.
it doesn't take a retard to appreciate the compete differences in the sports.
Thats is why kristos squats in a monolift while max dal santo (comm games oly) snatches. And they spot each other.
Strength is a universal language. Quit getting butt hurt.
I told you oni trolled you.
I also said 'most' of the critics. You being an exception changes nothing.
I did oly lifting for years. I know the comparisons. Making speculations is completely asinine.
no wraps or shit. Good on you man. You are so super hardcore and raw.
it doesn't take a retard to appreciate the compete differences in the sports.
Thats is why kristos squats in a monolift while max dal santo (comm games oly) snatches. And they spot each other.
Strength is a universal language. Quit getting butt hurt.
Stonelifter
New member
I only come to ausbb for the arguments..
vonfram88
Active member
Gee I never experienced trolling before on one of these forums. My butt is not the one that appears to be hurting here.
Not thick. Long and thin gets further in.
Kyle Aaron
Active member
I'm not the one who kicked someone out of the gym for drug use, mate.
"If you lift in a federation where drug use is not allowed, and you use drugs, I will kick you out."
That's your standard, not mine. You made it. If it was good enough for the PA guy, why not for everyone else? I didn't tell you to set that standard, nor did anyone else, you came up with it yourself. The GPC constitution prohibits PED use.
Follow the standards which you have freely set for yourself, or change your standards. Either works.