Can't really use outliers to prove a point. The overall correlation in people that lift weights is that bigger guys are stronger.
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High intensity training over str, for muscle gains.
Can't really use outliers to prove a point. The overall correlation in people that lift weights is that bigger guys are stronger.
0ni
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Yeah because all strength training is 1RM focused.
A routine that is focused on increasing your 8RM can't possibly be "strength training" right?
And as you can see from what you posted, he would ramp up to heavy 5's then go down into volume. What the hell has smolov or westside got to do with anything?
Yeah because all strength training is 1RM focused.
A routine that is focused on increasing your 8RM can't possibly be "strength training" right?
And as you can see from what you posted, he would ramp up to heavy 5's then go down into volume. What the hell has smolov or westside got to do with anything?
Look at all the accessory work. Total volume. The fact he was running a 5 day split, on a bulk and cut diet. This is the essence of bodybuilding training you numb nut. Tom Platz was training to be huge and have a small waist, if thats not bodybuilding what the fuck is.
Nah mate you got it twisted I'm saying they train to get big but with that comes strength. Platz wasn't trying to get a 500lb 20 rep squat he was trying to get huge legs an he achieved his goal big numbers were the byproduct. Old mate was saying he was training for strength thats not true look at his leg workout it's classic bodybuilder. Same with his training style, body part split, bulk cut diet, massive volume, training for symetry. Pure bodybuilding.
Yeah but bodybuilding isn't just about strength its about training style, diet, getting huge followed by getting lean.
0ni
Registered Rustler
I can give a long, long list of world class powerlifters that train with a 5 day split with bodybuilding volume. It's very popular for the big benchers.
Do you want me to post it?
No shit. Really I never knew that.
Post ll the lists you want Platz was a bodybuilder his primary interest was building his body to imply he was concerned about working up his squat is stupid he wanted to have the biggest wheels in bb so he did massive amounts of leg volume in heaps of different ways to sculpt his legs not to get his 1 rep or 20 rep up.
Really couldn't be fucked waiting for you to respond, just checked your log 65kg LOL what the fuck are you a pre teen school girl. If you know so much about world class powerlifitng benching why are you rocking a sub 70kg bench.
Darkoz
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Bahahaha! I See you've finally met Oni and his 13 inch arms
0ni
Registered Rustler
LIFT-RUN-BANG: You wanted the best and you got the best - Q&A with Stan Rhino Efferding
Paul: What's the difference in your training when training for a meet, and training for a bodybuilding show?
Stan: Training for a meet means fewer total workouts per week, lots more calories and sleep and rep ranges from 2-5. Bodybuilding prep has more training sessions, less carbs and fats and more repetitions per set 8-20.
Paul: What's the difference in your training when training for a meet, and training for a bodybuilding show?
Stan: Training for a meet means fewer total workouts per week, lots more calories and sleep and rep ranges from 2-5. Bodybuilding prep has more training sessions, less carbs and fats and more repetitions per set 8-20.
0ni
Registered Rustler
Dante Trudel on bodybuilding:
Training is all about adaption. In simple terms you lift a weight and your muscle has one of 2 choices, either tear completely under the load (which is incredibly rare and what we don't want) or the muscle lifts the weight and protects itself by remodeling and getting bigger to protect itself against the load (next time). If the weight gets heavier, the muscle has to again remodel and get bigger again to handle it. You can superset, superslow, giant set, pre exhaust all day long but the infinite adaption is load---meaning heavier and heavier weights is the only infinite thing you can do in your training. Intensity is finite. Volume is finite (or infinite if you want to do 9000 sets per bodypart)...everything else is finite. The Load is infinite and heavier and heavier weights used (I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SOME BUCK 58 POUND WRITER FROM FLEX MAGAZINE SAYS) will make the biggest bodybuilder
Training is all about adaption. In simple terms you lift a weight and your muscle has one of 2 choices, either tear completely under the load (which is incredibly rare and what we don't want) or the muscle lifts the weight and protects itself by remodeling and getting bigger to protect itself against the load (next time). If the weight gets heavier, the muscle has to again remodel and get bigger again to handle it. You can superset, superslow, giant set, pre exhaust all day long but the infinite adaption is load---meaning heavier and heavier weights is the only infinite thing you can do in your training. Intensity is finite. Volume is finite (or infinite if you want to do 9000 sets per bodypart)...everything else is finite. The Load is infinite and heavier and heavier weights used (I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SOME BUCK 58 POUND WRITER FROM FLEX MAGAZINE SAYS) will make the biggest bodybuilder
0ni
Registered Rustler
Reg Park's 5x5 bodybuilding program. Essentially a strength program with added volume:
T NATION | Reg Park's 5x5 Program
T NATION | Reg Park's 5x5 Program
0ni
Registered Rustler
If you're trying to say that Kai Greene always lifted the same weights you're wrong
walt
DuffProteinMan
why would you train a strength program if your only concerned with bodybuilding?
If your concerned with bodybuilding, you would be more concerned with doing the exercise correctly and getting the proper contraction of the muscle. It's not lifting the heaviest amount of weight, but you will be getting stronger over time. Not as strong if you were to only be focused on strength training. But you would get to a point where some would call you strong.
your never wrong 0n1
except for your plan to get past 70kg bodyweight, your wrong in that case.
If your concerned with bodybuilding, you would be more concerned with doing the exercise correctly and getting the proper contraction of the muscle. It's not lifting the heaviest amount of weight, but you will be getting stronger over time. Not as strong if you were to only be focused on strength training. But you would get to a point where some would call you strong.
your never wrong 0n1
except for your plan to get past 70kg bodyweight, your wrong in that case.
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