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spartacus
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I don't worry about things like that. Some guys are on a different level; beyond me.
yeah they are but its good to know where you are and chip away if u can.you work consistently at something for long enough,you start getting somewhere.
you might not knock them off but you can climb a little bit at a time.progression.
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vonfram88
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Are you staying chaste or a little needle every now and then? (Given you are not doing PA now).
Sticky
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Fuck you annoy me with this attitude.
Do you think that the 600 lifters that have chosen to lift in GPC did so, so they can use drugs?
If you need, you really need to pull your head out of your arse.
Gpc holds the best meets. Period.
That's why people join.
they have that option of taking performance enhancing drugs if they so choose.What this means for the pure natural lifters,is that they are unlikely to win.
Id say thats a huge advantage for PA.that someone with some talent for the sport can come to PA and have a level playing field.
WoodyAllen
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Stiffy
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Coz it makes their legs look longer and makes their butt stick out more. Haven't you ever worn high heels!!!
vonfram88
Active member
Yes GPC holds good meets, has bigger membership etc....
Sticky, just pointing out that Sparta had previously expressed views that were borderline on proselytising on the virtues of competing in PA under a drug tested regime.
Maybe you need pull your head out of your rectum first. The stark reality is that on the balance of probabilities, a random sample of lifters from an untested fed would be more likely to be users of PED than a sample of lifters from a tested fed.
I don't think you ought to approach this with such hostility, I'm not making a judgement call on your fed or even competitors who choose to compete whilst augmented by TRT.
i will make judgement calls on PED use. Anyone has a problem with that, call 1800-my cock is bigger than yours and I like your ass.
As you are an office holder I would caution against being too pissed off, it could be misinterpreted as a chip on the shoulder.
i on the other hand hold no office, barely even lift and really couldn't give a fuck how many PED using posers and liars feel anxious about my observations and commentary. A bloated faced PED using retard squatting and dead lifting seven plates after with just two years of training is still a fucking retard.
Sticky
Active member
Just because Chris has decided to join GPC, and not PA, does not mean he has to be using PED's.
It means, he has decided to join the federation he believes has the best competition, or is going in the best direction.
We are also not talking about the "balance in probability"....... But on the subject, I'd be happy to bet, in a random test within my federation, the result would be drug free.
You blatantly asked, and in my eyes, implied (as you have many times before) that if you don't join PA, or are strong, you must be using drugs.
It's weak mate., and insulting to every lifter at GPC.
vonfram88
Active member
Furthermore let's see who can get the most riled and angry over the PED issue and who feels the most self righteous.
My 13 yo son is into WL and wil be soon entering his first competiton. My role is to guide him to make good life decisions. Already I have had to discuss the matter of PED; it's unavoidable in these strength sports and I do my best to insulate him from it. He understands that there will be an upper limit to what is possible naturally and that drugs still do exist in the upper echelons. I can only guide him to choose a balanced life.
Yet somehow I'm not supposed to be judgemental of gym chains or sporting organisations which, by their acquiescence, and reward systems, are probably encouraging that scourge of PED usage; "don't judge us man, it's our business what we do and my bench is bigger than yours...."
A wise man once said
EAT SHIT AND DIE.
My 13 yo son is into WL and wil be soon entering his first competiton. My role is to guide him to make good life decisions. Already I have had to discuss the matter of PED; it's unavoidable in these strength sports and I do my best to insulate him from it. He understands that there will be an upper limit to what is possible naturally and that drugs still do exist in the upper echelons. I can only guide him to choose a balanced life.
Yet somehow I'm not supposed to be judgemental of gym chains or sporting organisations which, by their acquiescence, and reward systems, are probably encouraging that scourge of PED usage; "don't judge us man, it's our business what we do and my bench is bigger than yours...."
A wise man once said
EAT SHIT AND DIE.
spartacus
Well-known member
to be honest, I could easily have joined any of the three major feds for different reasons, but decided I would lift where I felt most comfortable at. In any case, GPC is well run, I know quite a few of its competitors, and I am not sure I would have been welcome at PA given recent events.
Like I have said and argued on the public record, there are many reasons why lifters choose different feds.
Like I have said and argued on the public record, there are many reasons why lifters choose different feds.
vonfram88
Active member
Nope, just the chip on your shoulder again. You still don't seem comfortable with the status of your organisation. It's not a case of "everyone who is strong is a juicer, everyone who is weak is a pussy" there are natural lifters who are awesomely strong and there are juiced lifters who ought to play badminton.
GPC can further avoid what you consider "slights" from countless people like me by further strengthening its policy and actually stamping out the shit.
Pretty thin skinned and precious group of people you have there if they are insulted by a question. Chris answered the question and strangely enough I believe his answer. However your organisation's policy framework and your status as an Egyptian (living in de-Nile) does not provide support for a PED free environment.
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