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"Upper body squat"

"upper body squat"

  • Machine pull-over

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  • BB OR DB Press

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  • Total voters
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  • Poll closed .
If one owned a barbell and plates with something to squat in, a chinning bar and dipping bars, that is used repeatedly, one could biuld a big strong body.

I'd say that the dip, with it's longer ROM compared to the chinup seems to be the ticket.

But then you have the pullover, I just don't know.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A24SgSQmDP4&feature=youtube_gdata_player]Nautilus Pullover: Casey Viator - YouTube[/ame]
 
hmmm.... dips definitely up there but if one does pullups with grip variations, I'd say that would put pullups up there too

ie if you use a mix of underhand, overhand, neutral and axe grips AND you vary the width, you'd have a pretty full on upper body workout right there.

non?
 
I'm going with chins/pullups. It is the only exercise that if I do 3-4 sets of to failure that I feel equally fatigued as had I done the same for squats. I find the chins, mainly palms out, really hammer the upper body including the core.
 
I'm going with chins/pullups. It is the only exercise that if I do 3-4 sets of to failure that I feel equally fatigued as had I done the same for squats. I find the chins, mainly palms out, really hammer the upper body including the core.

If you look at how far the upper arm moves around the shoulder, I think you are pretty spot on Guzzla.
300mm for dipping
600mm fo chinning.
700mm for machine pullover, but the kicker is that the resistance on a good machine is also going to be variable and rotational, so resistance will be consistent throughout, from full extension to full contraction, done properly it hurts like hell.
Especially when done together, using the pullover as a Pre-fatigue exercise.
 
hmmm.... dips definitely up there but if one does pullups with grip variations, I'd say that would put pullups up there too

ie if you use a mix of underhand, overhand, neutral and axe grips AND you vary the width, you'd have a pretty full on upper body workout right there.

non?

More muscleture seems to be loaded on the dip, that is all the muscles around the shoulder are working.

The moment arm in the chin-up is quite extreme.

The pullover can cause shoulder impingement as in towards full extension one needs to adjust the torso.

I don't think there is an answer, I think too much, and just say all are bloody good.
 
More muscleture seems to be loaded on the dip, that is all the muscles around the shoulder are working.

The moment arm in the chin-up is quite extreme.

The pullover can cause shoulder impingement as in towards full extension one needs to adjust the torso.

I don't think there is an answer, I think too much, and just say all are bloody good.

Thinking is good

No such thing as too much

It's an interesting question :)
 
Pullup/Chinup and it's variations. Some obviously harder than the standards like Sternum/Gironda Pullups or L sits which brings some lower body into play.

Although I haven't tried machine pullovers on an original Nautilus. They'd be fun though.

Goosey, love the Viator vid. Guy was a beast.
 
That's at full weight stack Bams, and Casey is using full range controlled exercise here, it's quite amazing.

The early original pullover is just a beast of a machine, the strength curve was perfect.

His work ethic and strength was scary to watch.
 
going to have to be dips
especially as you essentially squat down with your arms when you do it
 
How do you know this Onster?

What do you mean? You start with your shoulders and elbows locked out at the top (hips and knees in the squat) then bend at the joints until your shoulders go under your elbows (hips lower than knees in squat) then come back up again. Seems pretty similar to a squat in my head lol
 
What do you mean? You start with your shoulders and elbows locked out at the top (hips and knees in the squat) then bend at the joints until your shoulders go under your elbows (hips lower than knees in squat) then come back up again. Seems pretty similar to a squat in my head lol

Thanks Onster, will have to try it some day, Sounds really hard
 
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