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^^The above is something you'd be used to Stiffy, all those late night homosexual park encounters
 
Grew up in a catholic family and went to catholic school. Stopped believing in that about the same time I worked out the Easter bunny wasn’t real, I was 26 for those wondering.
 
Just to clarify, Atheism is not a belief in any way shape or form, it's non belief in a god or gods.
There is no faith involved since faith in this context means belief without evidence.


You are 100% correct. However, that does not mean it's not a religion with a belief system. Being an atheist means that you don't believe in a god, but there will be belief in something else (such as evolution some other explanation for life), hence my comment which may have caused some confusion.
 
Grew up in a catholic family and went to catholic school. Stopped believing in that about the same time I worked out the Easter bunny wasn’t real, I was 26 for those wondering.


I still remember the look of pure hatred I got from my school teacher around the time I was 6 or 7 when I announced to the entire class that Santa wasn't real.

I could never figure out what adults thought it was a good, even necessary, thing to lie to children. I mean, they are going to find out one way or another, then what?

It's like throwing a birthday party for a 1 year old. Its all for the benefit of parents. The baby just wants to take a dump in its pants and suck on a boob.
 
Evolution is not a beleif, there's undeniable evidence of it.
 

Yes
Although I'll contend that Jesus was a pretty cool guy that doesn't afraid of anything
 
Evolution is not a beleif, there's undeniable evidence of it.

I would say that there is undeniable evidence of a God
The bit where it comes to "faith" is when it comes to morality. Sam Harris is actually trying to figure out how to set morality in stone as an atheist, and I quite like his work on this
 
Bazza were you really 26 when you figured out the Easter Bunny wasn't real?
 

Thanks a lot!! I always thought Santa was real until now, you asshole!!

First Bazza tells me the Easter Bunny isn't real and now you tell me that Santa Clause isn't real, this is the worst day of my life!!
 

You used god as an excuse when you would have got over your problems without him. If you were a real man you wouldn't have too lower yourself into believing in things that don't exist.
 
You used god as an excuse when you would have got over your problems without him. If you were a real man you wouldn't have too lower yourself into believing in things that don't exist.

What has being a real Man got to do with religious beliefs? We could say if you were a real Man you wouldn't take Steroids or brown nose the Manager/Moderator!
 
What has being a real Man got to do with religious beliefs? We could say if you were a real Man you wouldn't take Steroids or brown nose the Manager/Moderator!

Religious people are religious in the first place because they are weak, this is what drives them to religion. If you are strong and mature then you don't need any religion because you are a real man, understand.

I don't take Steroids or brown nose anyone, once again your sticking your nose where its not needed and your thinking up stories in your mind.
 
Evolution is not a beleif, there's undeniable evidence of it.

Evolution is a belief. It's based on faith that things happened exactly (or close to) what the science community (the clergy) present as truth.

I'm not saying that creationism is true, any more than I'm saying that the Dreamtime happened. People believe in all of those, just as fervently as an evolutionist has their belief.

What I am saying is that the "facts" presented to support evolution are no different, in effect, than any other belief system.

For example, evolution follows the theory (roughly, not trying to be perfectly accurate here) that life appeared on earth in a certain progression. The cooling earth formed an atmosphere, oceans and dry land. Life began with very simple forms in the oceans, then dry land with algae/plants/bacteria, then larger and more complex life such as birds, reptiles and mammals. Finally humans came along.

This is EXACTLY the progression simply described in the first chapter of Genesis. It may also, possibly, be described in other religious books, not that it matters.

The point I'm trying to make here is that the information presented by science supports the creation account.

Of course, that's kinda embarrassing so we don't talk about that.

Just saying that there is "undeniable evidence" is a blanket statement that anyone of any belief system can claim. It's no different than belief in Greek gods, Hindu gods, Catholics, Muslims and cults. Everyone believes fervently in the "undeniable evidence" of their faith.

The point I'm trying to make here, if I can simplify this even more, is that your belief in evolution is a matter of faith, not undeniable facts, despite what the pro-evolution clergy may say. Everyone nation down through the ages has believed that they have "the truth". Today is no different.

 
I can guarantee that within the next 100 years discoveries will be made that will blow the lid off the theory of evolution
In the last 100 years there have already been several discoveries that have blown the metaphorical lid already. Dawkins book The Selfish Gene from 1976 is already "out of date"
 
Dear [you]

The advent of this thread has brought about an immense amount of soul searching on my behalf and I have reached a turning point in my life.

It’s so painfully obvious to me now that my lack of faith is the root of my problems. But I have been saved and want to spread the word; I hope that you can share in the blissful savior I have found. I love all of you so much, I want you to benefit from my new faith.

So, please take a moment to share in my redemption and go to the website below and rejoice in the truth.

www.venganza.org

Peace and noodles,

showdownhero
 

Welcome to the fold Brother. I love you too!

"And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near."
 
"Put on then, as God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassionate hearts, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience, bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive. And above all these put on love, which binds everything together in perfect harmony."