tell me why soil integrity and minerals will be any better with organic than conventional.
Ok Bio dynamic farming. It is basically organic farmings retarded cousin. It is basically organic farming with added astrology, magic and other hocus pocus.
Eg planting and harvesting crops based on moon phases and stars. Burying a bull horn filled with herbs in the crop under a full moon. Homeopathic remedies used on crops. The biggest critics of bio dynamic farming are the organic farmers as they don't want this magical type of farming associated with organic.
Organic farming has plenty of good points. Sustainable agriculture, preserving soil structure, rotating crops, increasing soil fertility ect . But these practices are used by conventional farming anyway.
I cant say it is, thats why you buy from local farmers you know... Question them on what they do. Not just walk into woolies and buy organic potato chips with organic cane sugar just for the sake of it.
Its like buying a car off an enthusiast as opposed to a used car dealership.. 1 actually cared for it the other didnt. What ends up being better for you.
There is more to biodynamic then the wiki dump you just posted...
Im fairly certain that for longer then you and i have been alive civilizations planted crops according to seasons and "the stars". Those people were healthier then we are today.
Do i believe in alot of that hocus pocus rubbish? No... But it shows the farmer actually cares about what he is doing so more likley to get a good result from someone who cares about what they do.
They also thought the world was flat, maybe they were wrong. And every farm plants crops according to the seasons.Im fairly certain that for longer then you and i have been alive civilizations planted crops according to seasons and "the stars". Those people were healthier then we are today.
Mate, i run a large dairy farm and studied agriculture at uni, i know how farms are run.
You have been blinded by the organic marketing. You believe exactly what they want you to believe. like i said organic farming uses chemicals and fertilizers, they just never mention that. What about organic farming means its cared for better? Also tell me again a actual reason why organic food will have any more nutrients than conventional.
They also thought the world was flat, maybe they were wrong.
Your last comment is absolute bullshit. Your saying that because someone runs there farm according to magic they care more so its better.
What about that means they care more than a conventional farmer.
Australia's chemical regulator says its reviewing studies on the insecticide Endosulfan, which has now been banned in the United States because it poses an unacceptable risk to farm workers and wildlife.
Endosulfans are banned in more than 60 countries, but in Australia they are still used on some vegetable, fruit and nut crops.
ALAN DANGOUR: So the question are there differences in nutrient content was the primary question and what we did was we looked at the papers published in the last 50 years and we were unable to find any important differences in nutrient content between organically and conventionally produced foods.
More health concerns are linked to chemical pesticides and fertilizers then natural...
Proof??
I read something about an hour ago that said they were alarmed at the number of organic pesticides that were carcinogenic.
There are well and poorly run conventional farms just as there is with organic.
WWGD
I wasnt posting that as proof. It was an example.
Chemicals are chemicals. How exactally are these natural chemicals used safer than synthetic ones. You were the one that said it, I'm interested. Many of the synthetic chemicals used are just derivitives of natural ones but are more effective requiring smaller amounts to be used.
I'll say it a again you are just falling for the marketing. These chemicals are natural so they must be better.
Noobs, you picked the wrong guy me's think's
AEK, are any of those nutrients found in food, and probably dont need to be supplemented?
Did these guys need those supplements?
Do you benefit from supplement sales?
My point is that the industry makes money from ignorant people, therefore it should be regulated.
Either they educate or regulate, they cant have it both ways. They need to protect those that think a great physique comes from supplements that are found in food, since the dawn of time.
WWGD
Hey PTC i know you love bashing the Supps industry but in all honesty there are some natural bodybuilders out there today that would put those prehistoric bodies to Shame.
Those dinosuar bodybuilders also used some gear aswell so that only proves my point that supps do work, are you advocating taking gear aswell lol !!!
Supplements do work i do not see how they can hinder anyones progress in weight training.
Furthermore to get adleast 12gr Creatine Monohydrate you need to eat adleast 3kg of meat everyday
Even you can not do that so stop throwing that food vs supps argument across it's a piss weak argument, of course food is better but supps can assist.
zyzz said:Weight gainers and mass gainers were used very often throughout my first 2 years. They helped me put on size for sure. I was never a big fan of creatine, but i have used it before – the water retention in most creatine products is what turns me off. Pre workout energy drinks are also good, but these days all i take is fish oil, multi’s, and whey after a workout.
Save your money on expensive supplements and go buy some tuna, broccoli, Cottage cheese and steak. Trust me on this one!
chestbrah said:Supplements that I take on a daily basis include multivitamins, fish oil, waxy maize, whey protein and a simple weight gainer.
Narcissus said:I’ll have 3 Protein shakes a day and Creatine after a workout. I take the generic fish oil and vitamins just for general well being. One of the protein shakes I have is a slow release and I add egg whites and low fat ice cream to it so its like a smoothie (a spoon of nutella sometimes too). It tastes great and is a perfect shake for bulking.
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