Tax dodgers and fudgers cost Federal Government $8.7 billion in a year

[spartacus]

stiffy, please dont use evidence. it will only confuse people who live by ideals.

 

[Stiffy]

A loaf of Bread "$50 thanks!"

 

[Stiffy]

LDP supported policies include:[7][8][9][10]

Federal budgets which are neither in surplus, nor deficit, but balanced[11]
Abolish the ban on low paid work, referred to as the Minimum wage.
Remove ‘unfair dismissal’ restrictions.
Support of competitive federalism and political decentralisation
Restore to the States the power to impose income taxes and other taxes currently reserved to the Commonwealth[12]
Cease all Commonwealth involvement in health and education[12]
Extensive reduction of taxes and fines, industrial relations regulations, and government spending including welfare, health and defence, replacing most with a compulsory superannuation payment to fund social services and compulsory insurance cover for those whose balance does not meet a mandated minimum[13]
Support for commercial off-the-shelf and military off-the-shelf defence acquisitions where possible[14]
Support of extensive privatisation and deregulation: end government ownership of business enterprises including the ABC, SBS, Australia Post, government owned public schools, government owned public hospitals, electricity generation and public transport services
Deregulate industry to the greatest extent possible to build its international competitiveness
Support of a 20% flat rate income tax with a $40000 tax free threshold.[15]
Support of extensive free markets and free trade[16]
Support of the most efficient and effective electricity generation, with no options off the table[17]
Support of market over government responses to climate change
Opposition to industry subsidies including corporate welfare
Support of citizen-initiated referenda, fixed parliamentary terms, recall elections, and voluntary voting[18]
Support the relaxation of foreign investment requirements and removal of restrictions against foreign ownership.
Call for reform to the anti-dumping legislation.
Support for increasing barriers for immigrants to acquire Australian citizenship
Maximisation of freedom of travel administered by a general immigration tariff on all non-humanitarian immigrants from other nations to replace the existing quota system[19]
Support of free migration agreements with more nations such as the current Australia/New Zealand agreement
Unauthorised arrivals temporarily detained for health and security checks, transparent process for determining refugee status, community release under bail-like conditions while status is determined
Removal of sin taxes (including for alcohol and tobacco)[15]
Marriage privatisation or getting the government out of the marriage business.[20]
Equality before the law, including opposition to affirmative action[21]
Support of property owners' rights
Support of fishing and shooting rights
Opposition to censorship
Legalisation of all drugs less harmful than alcohol and tobacco, and decriminalisation of all other drugs.[22] [MENTION=8399]0ni[/MENTION]
Legalisation of assisted suicide[23]
Abolition of coercive psychiatry
Decriminalise the means to self defense (including pepper spray, tasers and firearms under some circumstances)[24][25] [MENTION=16675]bozodos[/MENTION]
Opposition to government-funded foreign aid, other than short-term humanitarian relief, in favour of private charity[26]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democratic_Party_(Australia)

 

[spartacus]

yeah, they will get a lof of votes from people with high iqs

 

[Stiffy]

I think a lot of these minor parties haven't got the advisers or enough knowledgeable members to give a thorough understanding of a broad range of topics, thus they endorse some policies which are short-sighted. Pauline Hanson seemed to suffer from this [MENTION=8428]Big Mick[/MENTION]

 

[0ni]

Sales tax should be at 20%
Income tax should be zero

You make the mistake of thinking that the government should be getting all the revenue that it's currently getting

 

[Stiffy]

Sales tax should be at 20%
Income tax should be zero

You make the mistake of thinking that the government should be getting all the revenue that it's currently getting

Even with a 20% GST there would still be a massive shirt fall in Government revenues as Income tax accounts for almost 60% of Gov revenue. How are you going to make that up if you abolish it?
Do the Maths Poni.

 

[Sticky]

Cut government spending for a start.

 

[Stiffy]

Cut government spending for a start.

No offense but that's why you're a PL Coach.

To cut Income Tax from Government revenue you are eliminating by far the biggest slice of the revenue pie.

 

[0ni]

Massive, Massive cuts to government spending

The government does loads of stuff that is not a legitimate role of government. The government is there to protect life and liberty - just read our constitution and you'll see what is a legitimate role of the government as per our constitution. Why am I paying for government sanctioned art, music and sport?

 

[spartacus]

some great thoughts.

 

[Sticky]

No offense but that's why you're a PL Coach.

To cut Income Tax from Government revenue you are eliminating by far the biggest slice of the revenue pie.

No offense, but one of my members has a PHD in economics, and his view is to massively reduce (maybe not 100%, but very very heavily reduced) income tax and raise the gst.

In short, he said that a tax that influences people to act differently is generally a bad tax.
With the way our tax system is, a great percentage of the populations income is being taken away, influencing how people earn and spend their money.

GST has shown not to really alter people’s spending that much, especially as they would have more money to spend.

He did say though that it hits the poorer people harder, so keeping a little income tax is a good idea to offset the poor.

 

[spartacus]

yeah, so what.

lots of people have phds in economics, and they often disagree with each other. some support one way, some the other.

no offence.

I also said our income tax is high and our gst is low by oecd standards if you read previous posts. one does not need a phd in economics to have an opinion do they.

but, sales tax alone will never meets aust's policy needs or any other civilised society; that is the stuff of bs and fantasy land. but each to their own.

 

[Sticky]

yeah, so what.

lots of people have phds in economics, and they often disagree with each other. some support one way, some the other.

no offence.

I also said our income tax is high and our gst is low by oecd standards if you read previous posts. one does not need a phd in economics to have an opinion do they.

but, sales tax alone will never meets aust's policy needs or any other civilised society; that is the stuff of bs and fantasy land. but each to their own.

Sparty, I wasn’t replying to you, clearly.

So..... go eat an apple and relax mate.

 

[Stiffy]

Using those 2014 figures, if 57% of all tax revenue comes from income and company taxes, with GST 12.8%, the NEW GST rate if we eliminate individual and company tax would be above 50%, to use the Economic term ceteris paribus.

0ni just likes Liberal Democrats coz they are for legalization of a lot of drugs lol.

 

[spartacus]

Sparty, I wasn’t replying to you, clearly.

So..... go eat an apple and relax mate.

ok. I now see quote you cited. don't know why I did not see it last night.

 

[0ni]

Using those 2014 figures, if 57% of all tax revenue comes from income and company taxes, with GST 12.8%, the NEW GST rate if we eliminate individual and company tax would be above 50%, to use the Economic term ceteris paribus.

0ni just likes Liberal Democrats coz they are for legalization of a lot of drugs lol.

That's BS, lots of major Australian parties are in favour of drug law reform and I don't support any of them

 

[bozodos]

taxation is theft


EDIT: actually read the thread, yeah I vote Liberal Democrats too, typical boomer reaction to get outraged at the notion that you don't have a god given right to other people's money tbh.

 

[Stiffy]

taxation is theft


EDIT: actually read the thread, yeah I vote Liberal Democrats too, typical boomer reaction to get outraged at the notion that you don't have a god given right to other people's money tbh.

There's a reason Goosey and Darky would always say:

Shut up bozo

shut up bozo​

 

[bozodos]

There's a reason Goosey and Darky would always say:

shut up stiffy