yeah but alot of them do not emphasis from what i have seen
- shoulders
- calves
- biceps
- traps
yes i know there is carry over there from the other lifts but from what ive seen not much to actually bring them up to the levels of the other bodyparts.
bodybuilding is about symmetry and balance. The typical PL has smallish arms/calves compared to his other body parts. Once again not saying they DONT get trained but just in comparison
Know your body, gain knowledge, train hard.
lol i knew this where this thread was going to happen yet i still clicked on it.
Having trained BB splits for over 10 years and now strength over 2..
I can see a very clear distinction between the 2 when u get to a more intermediate-advanced level.
But till then doing a basic beginners or 5x5 would be more beneficial to a complete beginner moveing to a split.
Im currently trialing a PL/BB program mix i wrote up to see if i can get the good parts of both worlds.
Main lifts = PL (5-6 reps)
Assistance = BB (8-10 reps) with curls/calf raises etc..
But you can add this stuff in easily to most. Its all minor shit and generally won't adversely affect a program too much.
And fuck me, if you haven't got big traps from deads already you're doing something wrong.
Are these arbitrary numbers?I get the point of this thread.... But don't agree with most of it,
As Freako said, there are no beginner PL/BB, just beginner lifters.
Until you can squat 140, bench 100, or deadlift 180 your a complete novice and have no place doing any type of advanced routines BB or PL.
Anybody think those numbers are to high? If you cant hit those in under 12 months, take up table tennis because your heart isnt in lifting....
Are these arbitrary numbers?
Where did this 140, 100, 180 come from? I want a link to the person who came up with these numbers and how he come to reach this conclusion.
Some pretty big blokes can't deadlift 180, are they beginners?
yeah but that wouldn't be sigles right?, they'd be doing that for 5-10 which usually means they could probably pull 4 plates once offVery true...I see good competive bbers that only dead 3 - 3 1/2 plates aside lol
yeah but that wouldn't be sigles right?, they'd be doing that for 5-10 which usually means they could probably pull 4 plates once off
oh..er..awkward lol
But at the end of the day who cares....doesnt matter how much you lift its what u look like you can lift....
Just pays tribute to the fact there many ways to skin a cat.
You've got big bad Dorian who rowed more than he deadlifted...
Then you've got the freak Ronnie who pulled 800 for 2 reps a few weeks out from the Mr O.
Phil heath didn't even deadlift before he won the O.
I saw him pulling 3 plates like it was 6.
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