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Gauche said:
Max-ot was my first program. Thinking back I spent nearly half and hour a week completing useless exercises in that program working forearms and calfs. What sort of beginer needs that work? Who in their right mind would reccomend that for beginners?

The words body building say it all. I didn't train my biceps or calves and they got bigger doing PL lifts. So my body was being built through resistance training.

Attacking people and their results on the forum are hardly a way of confirming which routines produce the best results.

It all sounds bro-science against common sense to me.

No deadlifts and milk aren't essential. Neither are 5 day splits and jacked.

Train hard and put your heart into it and results will come.
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This ^^^^

But saying that train for your goals...max-ot is a great program for beginner, heavy weights, low reps, sticking to basic exercises most of the time, very simple to follow, outlines good recovery, and the importance of lifting heavy...

Its getting boring trying to say this is what you should be doing, no this is what you should be doing blah blah...

If you wanna be a bodybuilder train like one, if you wanna be a strength athlete/powerlifter train like one....then follow the comment you made that I bolded....

Topic is getting ZzZZzzZZZZzzz lets put it to bed and use abit of common sense....if you wanna be a doctor you study to be a doctor not a fucking builder...lol
 
YEAAABUDDDY said:
This ^^^^

But saying that train for your goals...max-ot is a great program for beginner, heavy weights, low reps, sticking to basic exercises most of the time, very simple to follow, outlines good recovery, and the importance of lifting heavy...

Its getting boring trying to say this is what you should be doing, no this is what you should be doing blah blah...

If you wanna be a bodybuilder train like one, if you wanna be a strength athlete/powerlifter train like one....then follow the comment you made that I bolded....

Topic is getting ZzZZzzZZZZzzz lets put it to bed and use abit of common sense....if you wanna be a doctor you study to be a doctor not a fucking builder...lol
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Doctors bulid a foundation at uni. Builders build a foundation at a bulding site. If someone is new to BB they should be doing the meat and potatos of weight lifting not calves and forearms. Come on man... Calve, bicepss and forearms for a beginer? Your not going to serious reccomend that to someone new and expect them to get the BEST results they can??

I like max-ot, my first posts on this website 3 years ago were about max-ot and what success I had on it and I was rubbished for it back then. I have since learnt that there a better ways to get a foundation from this forum like many others. Since building that foundation I get results in whatever I do.

train hard, eat plenty and sleep more then the other two put together. As long as you hit it hard you'll get results in whatever you do. New people just need a nudge in the foundation direction before the isolation of the calves direction.
 
Why cant a beginner train forearms, calves and biceps??? Aswell as doing everything else....dont get caught up in the squat, bench, dead bullshit mate....everything has its place and everything makes you a better overall lifter and bber or strength athlete....

Again I will say....

Train for your goals....
 
Gauche said:
Doctors bulid a foundation at uni. Builders build a foundation at a bulding site. If someone is new to BB they should be doing the meat and potatos of weight lifting not calves and forearms. Come on man... Calve, bicepss and forearms for a beginer? Your not going to serious reccomend that to someone new and expect them to get the BEST results they can??

I like max-ot, my first posts on this website 3 years ago were about max-ot and what success I had on it and I was rubbished for it back then. I have since learnt that there a better ways to get a foundation from this forum like many others. Since building that foundation I get results in whatever I do.

train hard, eat plenty and sleep more then the other two put together. As long as you hit it hard you'll get results in whatever you do. New people just need a nudge in the foundation direction before the isolation of the calves direction.
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Who ever said ANYTHING about this??? lol....this thinking of "beginners all need 5x5" and stuff like that is bro-science within its self....
 
YEAAABUDDDY said:
Why cant a beginner train forearms, calves and biceps??? Aswell as doing everything else....dont get caught up in the squat, bench, dead bullshit mate....everything has its place and everything makes you a better overall lifter and bber or strength athlete....

Again I will say....

Train for your goals....
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But what is the point in fine tuning the details when no solid foundation has been built.

The basics build the house, then you can bring in all the specialised training to suit your needs.
 
I agree u can do both to a degree.
A beginner can train calves/biceps if need be. Only if it does not take away from the main lifts where there is the most to gain.

Alot of beginners will tend to overdo the vanity muscles this is commonly seen. Re: doing 18 sets of biceps is not ideal.
 
y is everyone getting caught up on forearms n calves i didnt even say anything about them lol

gauche why do u think my advice has anything to do with forearms n calves lol
 
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This...
DREADLIFT said:
But what is the point in fine tuning the details when no solid foundation has been built.

The basics build the house, then you can bring in all the specialised training to suit your needs.
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But this...
TrentZor said:
I agree u can do both to a degree.
A beginner can train calves/biceps if need be. Only if it does not take away from the main lifts where there is the most to gain.

Alot of beginners will tend to overdo the vanity muscles this is commonly seen. Re: doing 18 sets of biceps is not ideal.
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That's why I tend to leave isolation work out of my beginner programming. Avoiding temptation.

But still I definitely don't recommend body-part splits for beginners. Sure you can make progress on nearly any program if you train hard but I like efficiency.

/end broken record.
 
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bam.. my experimental BB/PL program.. His lifts and size all round have gone up after 3months.. His a member on here doing that body transform thing. Malceb.

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3 sets of barbell curls after chins per week
3 sets of triceps after chest per week
5min hiit after training..
Bodyweight has stayed the same and his waist ha dropped indicating he has gained muscle and dropped fat
All lifts have gone up


squat 100 bench 80 SLDL 40 Dead 100 dumbell bench 34 military press 40
 
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