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Muscle size is NOT correlated to muscle strength.

Here is post I did in a thread on another forum nearly 2 years ago now.

Read it all, then tell me there is no corralation between muscle size and strength


Naim Suleymanoglu.

One day In a small town of Mestlani in Bulgaria, a local kid was watching a weightlifting competition. He wanted to try the lifts, the officials fearing injury wouldnt allow him to try the snatch, but let him try the clean & jerk.

He took 20kg and blew it up, he then wanted 25kg and blew that up as well. When he asked for 30kg the official stepped in and said no as the kid had never lifted before. They were concerned about his safety

So whats the big deal of a 25kg C&J you say. The kid was 10yo and weighed 24kg, he lifted bodyweight overhead on his first ever attempt. The official that day was Enver Turkileri. He knew from that day the kid was born to lift. That was 1977. That meeting took place in May, by September he was invited to a sports shool, within a few years was on the Bulgarian Weightlifting team.

For the first 3 years he trained for around one hour a day, never more than two. He then played soccer or ping pong,gymnastics or swimming for 30 minutes.

At 13 his focus primarily became weightlifting. By the age of 14 he was trainig for 5-6 hours a day, six days a week. By the time he was on the Bulgarian team it was 7 days a week.

When he was 11 he snatched 60kg and C&J 80kg @ 31kg

At 12 he competed and snatched 75kg and C&J 95kg @ 39kg

At 13 he did 95/120 @ 48kg

At 14 he went 105/135 @ 50kg

In 1983 at age 15 he took 2nd place in the World Championships, losing by just 2.5kg

He won the World Championships in 1985,1986, sat out 1987 as he defected to Turkey, won his first Olympic gold in 1988, World Champion in 1989. He then retired.

In 1991 he came back and won the World Championships, gold in 1992 at the Olympics, World Champion in 1993,1994 and 1995, gold at 1996 at the Olympics. If he was allowed to compete at the boycotted 1984 games he surely would have 4 gold medals.

His training was fairly simple and typical Bulgarian. Maximum attempts on the snatch,c&j and front squats.

His lifetime PB'a are 160kg snatch and 200kg c&j, 230kg front squat, all done at 70kg.

At the Seoul Olympics in 1988 he c&j 190kg @ 60kg. This is regarded as one of the greatest lifts of all time.

His best competion snatch was also in Seoul, 152.5kg.

He is the most natural Olympic lifter of all time.....and I saw him lift in Melbourne
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Thanks Markos. Again, if you’ve been bodybuilding as long as I have now, you would have understood better the reason behind my article. It’s not me who’s comparing a bodybuilder with a weightlifter; it’s the young bodybuilder who’s comparing himself with a weightlifter. You see him doing the low reps and you ask him for the reason behind it: “to get strong” he replies. The same sickness some weightlifters who want to do bench press and barbell curls have, ask them for that mysterious reason behind their action and its: “ to look good.” I’ve seen it many times and from that stand I was hoping to get a discussion going back and forth. Not that I’m not familiar with every word you wrote, how can I not be!
My comprehension of the English language you say; perhaps you’re right. I’ll work on it.


Fadi.
 
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