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As for what's better for sport I don't think it makes a huge difference as long as you get strong.
If we are getting down to the finer points I would say wide stance powerlifting type squats as the worst for sport, high bar or front squats as the best with leg press in the middle.
But overall I would say an exercise like deadlifts or farmers walk is better weight training for footy ect.
btw, we were not talking specifically about quads, like this specific machine does, we were talking about the leg press vs a squat for non-weightlifting competitors.
my understanding of life fitness leg press is that a fuller movement, trying not to round back, will activate glutes and hammies more rather than a quarter movement.
That is what I am after, an exercise where I can work thighs with great intensity (every 2-3 weeks), and not have to worry about my back use in squats when I go heavier.
my understanding of life fitness leg press is that a fuller movement, trying not to round back, will activate glutes and hammies more rather than a quarter movement.
That is what I am after, an exercise where I can work thighs with great intensity (every 2-3 weeks), and not have to worry about my back use in squats when I go heavier.
To get a decent range of motion without lifting the heels usually requires the feet to be place quite high on the push plate. Then it's more of a hamstring and glute exercise but you certainly get to move some serious tonnages. That's why they can improve the deadlift - glutes and hammies.
I remember not squatting for a while and my legs were huge from insane weight leg presses but when I went back to squatting I was weaker at it. Squatting requires a very specific type of strength and leg press seems to disengage everything you need to stand up with a barbell on your back.
last week was my PB, i went from 2 plates a side, increasing 1 plate a side every set unit i hit 8 plates a side. then pyramid back down to 4 plates a side, soo many reps. thats how you use a leg press (less than 60 sec rest)
reps were 15-6 back to 12. no 3's
edit: looked at my log, 9 plates a side, so did 8 for 8 then 9 for 6 reps then pyramid back down incr reps
To get a decent range of motion without lifting the heels usually requires the feet to be place quite high on the push plate. Then it's more of a hamstring and glute exercise but you certainly get to move some serious tonnages. That's why they can improve the deadlift - glutes and hammies.
I remember not squatting for a while and my legs were huge from insane weight leg presses but when I went back to squatting I was weaker at it. Squatting requires a very specific type of strength and leg press seems to disengage everything you need to stand up with a barbell on your back.
last week was my PB, i went from 2 plates a side, increasing 1 plate a side every set unit i hit 8 plates a side. then pyramid back down to 4 plates a side, soo many reps. thats how you use a leg press (less than 60 sec rest)
reps were 15-6 back to 12. no 3's
edit: looked at my log, 9 plates a side, so did 8 for 8 then 9 for 6 reps then pyramid back down incr reps
I recommend putting the feet on the leg press in a position that suits your hips (just like Squat foot position) trying to target the outer vastus lateralis is getting a bit ridiculous imo.
As for what is better for non lifters, I'd say the Squat if properly done. (you'd be hard pressed to find an nrl strength and conditioning coach that prefers the leg press) but I can see where the leg press can increase specificity like the cycling example.
And how do you do a single Leg Squat with 150kg and not fall over?
yeah i saw a dude load up the incline leg press after i finished and started doing cardio, all of a sudden all these plates were on there, and he was fectching more from other stations, caught my eye.