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I would say without hesitation that it's more to do with the weak link than anything else, in the case of building thickness in the lats, it's the arms, the arms will tire, long before those big muscles in the back get to any sort of real mojo happening.
I find that
Feel like a homo strapping myself to the lat pulldown bar though
Seem to get better burn in the lats doing row type movements as the arms don't tire as quickly
I would say without hesitation that it's more to do with the weak link than anything else, in the case of building thickness in the lats, it's the arms, the arms will tire, long before those big muscles in the back get to any sort of real mojo happening.
This machine will make you feel like you have lats for the first time in your life, the burn is unbelievable.i have both but separate, machines, the trick is to quickly go from one to the next.
no, the bicep is primarily responsible for moving the arm, along with the posterior deltoid and the forearms, the bicep, being a much smaller muscle compared to the lat will fatigue much quicker, before the lat has used even 50% of its fresh strength.
thats why the chin-up with hand supinated is a better option because the bicep/s are engaged, stronger to enable you to use the lats a little longer, but still the arms are the weak link, nothing to do with mind connection, it's about mechanics.
This machine will make you feel like you have lats for the first time in your life, the burn is unbelievable.i have both but separate, machines, the trick is to quickly go from one to the next.View attachment 11337
I find that
Feel like a homo strapping myself to the lat pulldown bar though
Seem to get better burn in the lats doing row type movements as the arms don't tire as quickly
I would say without hesitation that it's more to do with the weak link than anything else, in the case of building thickness in the lats, it's the arms, the arms will tire, long before those big muscles in the back get to any sort of real mojo happening.
I recently tried using straps on the lat pulldown machine. It was like night and day. Previously I could only go up to 90kg, as I'm not heavy enough to pull the bar down to get started. The straps let me rep out 100kg, where now my actual body weight isn't an issue.
I then follow it up with body weight wide overhand pull ups. This way your arms are fresh and lats are pre fatigued.
Barbell bent over underhand rows are a very underrated exercise. Reps these out and you'll feel your lower lats burning.
it's funny but I can perform the T-Bar with 100+ and not require straps but with barbell rows (possible due to wider grip) I struggle. Yeah grip strength sux...