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TrentZor
Member
If you train at a commercial gym and u say u bench 100kg. I usually take 30% off that.
Gotta factor in the half reps and spotters assisting u.
cheers Trent
TrentZor
Member
And I would think 30% is probably being kind to the average commercial gym goer.
Sticky
Active member
I had somebody do a novice bench comp.
Put his openers in as a 160 bench 150 dead.
His arms are longer than mine....
As it was a novice comp, I ran through the rules with everyone before they started warming up. Afterwards, he came over and asked if he could lower his bench to 100kg as he'd never touched his chest, yet alone paused before.
Finished with 120 I think.
Put his openers in as a 160 bench 150 dead.
His arms are longer than mine....
As it was a novice comp, I ran through the rules with everyone before they started warming up. Afterwards, he came over and asked if he could lower his bench to 100kg as he'd never touched his chest, yet alone paused before.
Finished with 120 I think.
TrentZor
Member
Back on the topic. Not saying anyone has to train more if they dont want but I found that a big factor in making my lifts go up.
When I got over the Rippetoe/Wendler induced fear of over training and just started training hard and often my lifts started going up and stalls were less common.
Another thing I found is training the way I enjoy, just doing endless sets of volume is usually not interesting to me. I would rather work up to a heavy set or 2, sometimes more with low reps, then change exercises or do assistance to help with the lift. Traing hard, often and in a way you enjoy is the key for me because if you don't enjoy it why fucking bother.
When I got over the Rippetoe/Wendler induced fear of over training and just started training hard and often my lifts started going up and stalls were less common.
Another thing I found is training the way I enjoy, just doing endless sets of volume is usually not interesting to me. I would rather work up to a heavy set or 2, sometimes more with low reps, then change exercises or do assistance to help with the lift. Traing hard, often and in a way you enjoy is the key for me because if you don't enjoy it why fucking bother.
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Do you ever find it negatively impacts your football?
I only find football impacts on lifting, lifting never really impacts on football. The difficulty of a weights session does not even rate on the scale compared to how fucked I am after a game of footy.
Getting stronger has only helped my footy.
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NightFallTech
Member
?? really.. I was benching 60 strictly within about a month of ever seeing a gym when i was about 16, 100 has proven a much harder sticking point though. (102.5 at present)
First time i went to the gym a couple Maori blokes were benching 50KG DB's
I am not sure how this is different from Wendler... the guy is a bit misleading on volume.
The guy's own workouts probably take him 2h or so not to mention his mobility and conditioning work. When he developed his real abbreviated workouts like the Triumvirate, he was recovering from injuries or dieting.
The actual volume he writes in his logs is 2 Main lifts and usually 100 or so reps of Assistance work for each. He doesn't even bother to write down his ab work or the 50-100 chin ups he does each work out. Or even his Main Lift where he will do 4-5 warm up sets before getting into 5/3/1. Not to mention he does Mobility 3x per day.
TBH the volume he actually does vs what he tells people to do is a bit misleading unless you read between the lines.
Take his 5/3/1 for football workouts. By time you do mobility 10-20 min, speed 10-20 min, workout 60-90min, conditioning 20 min. You are looking at a 2h workout pretty easy.
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I don't read his log I am just going on what he recommends or used to recommend in his q&a. It may have changed I don't really read it anymore.
By the way I don't really count conditioning, mobility ect stuff as my workouts. They are other extras if they are done.
By the way I don't really count conditioning, mobility ect stuff as my workouts. They are other extras if they are done.
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It has changed more recently with version 2 of 5/3/1 to have much more variety of options including beginners versions etc... but in the end if you have been lifting long enough and you find something that works for now then go for it. and if it stops working try something else.
Me, on the otherhand, need a program of some sort as I am still so new as to be figuring out what to do. hell, I'd love to spend 2 hours at a time just to have more time to try how many interesting barbell exercises that there are.
Me, on the otherhand, need a program of some sort as I am still so new as to be figuring out what to do. hell, I'd love to spend 2 hours at a time just to have more time to try how many interesting barbell exercises that there are.
wingman
Super M0derator
He has a version 2?