Has anyone lost a large amount of weight?

[BigJim]

I havent touched alcohol for 6 months and dont miss it at all, which is surprising. Like noobs said, it is socialy accepted and that is not right. I thought about it for ages and could not come up with one possitive of drinking alcohol, so now i dont drink it. Simple as that.

I actually found it funny being the one not drinking as you get to see all your mates acting like fools lol. Take a camera with you and take photos of all the stupid stuff they do

 

[OutOfControl]

Hello Noobs

I've always been told that zero sugar pepsi and coke is OK, and so is diet cordial. I know i need to get tests done but i'm really scared about it all. I want to at least lose a bit of weight and get into the swing of it... before i go and find out some depressing news.

I want to lose 12 kilos so i can reduce my risk of heart attack. I weighed myself this morning and my exact weight was 121.3 kilos

I thought i was disgusting at 70 kilos.. then 80s.. then 90s.. then 100s... and here i am heading towards 130kilos. It's unimaginable. I never thought i could get this big.

I've got a school reunion coming up next year. I'm going to use that as motivation. I don't want to turn up there having gained like 50kilos since people last saw me! How embarrassing.

I'll put my weight in here next tuesday. Not that anyone cares but just because i know it will embarrass me if i have to say i didn't lose any weight... so i might try harder.

Haha BigJim i could get some scary photos if i did that.

There is alcohol involved with everything. Birthdays, celebrations, funerals, christmas, bbqs, absolutely anything. No one goes out sober either. Everyone drinks before and then drinks even more when they are out.

I've got a bad habit of binge drinking. I know why i do it though, it's cause i'm shy and embarrassed and i can just forget about it when i'm drunk. It's really going to be hard for me to give that up because i don't know what it is like to go out sober. I don't have any confidence to even talk to people because i'm so fat.

BigJim you have done really well with your transformation by the way!!

This is funny. Of all the places to spill my guts... i choose a body building forum.

Sorry lol

 

[Christian]

Dont be sorry, all you need if gor people to understand...

We can give you advice but you have to come to a realisation yourself. I was 120kg drank a few nights a week went out came home when sun was up smoked a packet of ciggarettes a day drank a bottle of rum a case of beer.

I wouldnot eat meals but i would eat a bag of m&ms and a bag of malteasers and dirnk 1l of milk then make a milo or something and the reason for it is simple SUGAR RELEASES DOPAMINE, DOPAMINE MAKES US FEEL GOOD however the feelings are short lived and you return to the firdge 15min later but this time you need more sugar then before. It is identical to cocaine addiction and studies have proved this...

We can all make the change and i dont doubt you cant no one is ever to far gone however some people are just weak and the weak will stay weak forever... the strong will prevail.

I have been thinking latley that it is natures way of letting dominant strong genes provail. When you look into genetics and attaction it is almost like some people sabbotage themselves so that they can not bear offspring its interesting...

Anyway, some people will say diets drinks are fine, but for who are they fine for? Not people that are on their way to being diabetic...

Diet cordial is a lesserof 2 evils aslong as it does not contain aspartame #951 also branded as equel or aminosweet or some other rubbish.. You can do this you just need discipline motivaiton goals and correct advice...

 

[OutOfControl]

That's the type of thing i do! I get pleasure from food, it's like a high.

A doctor gave me all this info on food obsession and overeating, but they said there is no cure. I read through it all and could identify with alot of it. Even though it left me confused.

Yeah isn't that natural selection thing called darwinism? Where the stupid people take themselves out of the genepool?

I am weak

I was thinking about weight... how do people get to 300 kilos and not die? It must have alot to do with genes? I know people bigger than me who haven't had any health problems to date. Even know a girl who was probably close to 200 kilos and she gave birth to twins!

And some people don't get stretchmarks but others do?

 

[Christian]

That's the type of thing i do! I get pleasure from food, it's like a high.

A doctor gave me all this info on food obsession and overeating, but they said there is no cure. I read through it all and could identify with alot of it. Even though it left me confused.

Yeah isn't that natural selection thing called darwinism? Where the stupid people take themselves out of the genepool?

I am weak

I was thinking about weight... how do people get to 300 kilos and not die? It must have alot to do with genes? I know people bigger than me who haven't had any health problems to date. Even know a girl who was probably close to 200 kilos and she gave birth to twins!

And some people don't get stretchmarks but others do?

Its emotions, and emotions are related to hormones and chemicals.

You may of heard about drug addicts needing more of their drugs to get that "high" this is the same as sugar, your brain downreuglated dopamine receptors thus you need more this is how people end up 300kg they dont stop they keep going because they 'feel' without that food hit they are not happy...

You need to take all the emotion out of it replace eating with exercise as exercise also releases endorphins.

Alot of times i dont want to get out of bed and exercise but after i do i relalise how much better i feel, now why cant my brain rmemeber thats what it made me feel like when i exercised, it seems to remember how good chocolate makes me feel but it allmost instantly forgets how good exercise makes me feel...

You are in your predicament because of a viscious cycle of physcial and emotional abuse to yourself. Only you can stop it

 

[Gauche]

I'm not suggesting this as a healthy alternative as many Mexican's and Cuban's end up with tongue cancer from prolonged use (they chew it).. But I use to take a good teaspoon of kola nut when it was going to be a late night and I wasn't drinking but still wanted to be social. Tastes horrible but you get a mild euphoria plus its been known to help with fat burning. It's just a crushed powder you add to a bit of juice.

I take it when I try to cut down a bit but never for a extended period of time like Mexicans etc. Beware it is a stimulant so it will go against what n00bs is saying, but I would take it to be the lesser of two evils.

After awhile I stopped needing anything at all. I also found that my lifestyle led to different friends as well who do different things for fun rather then smoking and drinking.

 

[dave]

I havent touched alcohol for 6 months and dont miss it at all, which is surprising. Like noobs said, it is socialy accepted and that is not right. I thought about it for ages and could not come up with one possitive of drinking alcohol, so now i dont drink it. Simple as that.

Worked this one out when I was 17, haven't drunk since, much better this way especially with the way I used to drink.

You really need to do 1. what noobs said, cut down the sugar and replace it with exercise for endorphin release. 2. Talk to someone about your eating addiction, not just us we don't have all the answer for psychological problems (don't take that the wrong way we all have problems it is just yours is killing you same with smokers and drinkers). You could join a obese group who talk about their weight and why they eat etc and get ideas and support from each other or go see someone by yourself and get their non-judgemental opinion and coaching. Also just so you know people don't laugh at fat people for exercising they laugh and criticise when they down a whole bag of lollies or eat maccas.

I also think you should find someone who you like that you can exercise with, someone you are comfortable with and who is reliable. If you have someone else it becomes more fun, more social and you tend to stick with it no matter what you are doing.

 

[Christian]

Worked this one out when I was 17, haven't drunk since, much better this way especially with the way I used to drink.

You really need to do 1. what noobs said, cut down the sugar and replace it with exercise for endorphin release. 2. Talk to someone about your eating addiction, not just us we don't have all the answer for psychological problems (don't take that the wrong way we all have problems it is just yours is killing you same with smokers and drinkers). You could join a obese group who talk about their weight and why they eat etc and get ideas and support from each other or go see someone by yourself and get their non-judgemental opinion and coaching. Also just so you know people don't laugh at fat people for exercising they laugh and criticise when they down a whole bag of lollies or eat maccas.

I also think you should find someone who you like that you can exercise with, someone you are comfortable with and who is reliable. If you have someone else it becomes more fun, more social and you tend to stick with it no matter what you are doing.

I laugh at fat people doing situps and using those cross trainers...

I have seen alot of bigger girls at my gym start doing ukranian deadlifts and stuff and i have nothing but respect for them... i hold them higher then the fanboys doing there bb curls in the squat rack!


Do the right exercises make an effort and you will reap rewards

 

[apiewithhoboliftingaroma]

I was 110kgs once (fat).

Got down to 74kg (looked near anorexic, but was fat skinny), trained and ate my way upto 101 (about 19 or 20% bf). Now down to 90 (about 13 or 14% bf). Aiming for 85 (10 or less %) for a while. Then will probably go back to 95.

 

[OutOfControl]

People do laugh. You can be walking along the road trying to exercise and someone will yell out that you're fat and laugh. Or tell you to join Jenny Craigs...

Instead of taking these comments as insults and crying over them, i'm going to try and think about them when i am exercising and use them to motivate me.

I will talk to psych one day. It's too overwhelming for me at the moment. I have been on pills before and i just found that i was swapping one bad habit for the other.

Apie it makes me laugh when i hear the term "skinny fat" lol
Congrats on your progress. Hey bodyfat % is important isn't it.

Makes me think that BMI doesn't work that well. What if you are a bodybuilder with 10% fat and weigh 100 kilos but BMI says that is overweight.

 

[BoyFromAus]

People do laugh. You can be walking along the road trying to exercise and someone will yell out that you're fat and laugh. Or tell you to join Jenny Craigs...

Instead of taking these comments as insults and crying over them, i'm going to try and think about them when i am exercising and use them to motivate me.

I will talk to psych one day. It's too overwhelming for me at the moment. I have been on pills before and i just found that i was swapping one bad habit for the other.

Apie it makes me laugh when i hear the term "skinny fat" lol
Congrats on your progress. Hey bodyfat % is important isn't it.

Makes me think that BMI doesn't work that well. What if you are a bodybuilder with 10% fat and weigh 100 kilos but BMI says that is overweight.

in all fairness, really ripped guys probably cop more flack too and get stereotyped.

"ohh, that guy must do drugs"
"ohhh he's prolly a dickhead who's totally up himself"

and so on.

But as far as fat loss, i've lost about 14% of bodyfat from october 2008 til now. I'll post up some pictures sometime this week when I get my latest pic..

 

[Christian]

in all fairness, really ripped guys probably cop more flack too and get stereotyped.

"ohh, that guy must do drugs"
"ohhh he's prolly a dickhead who's totally up himself"

and so on.

But as far as fat loss, i've lost about 14% of bodyfat from october 2008 til now. I'll post up some pictures sometime this week when I get my latest pic..

Well it is sort of true bodybuildign is very vain, and basically an obsessive compulsive disorder turned inwards rather then outwards...

And obese people do not have self respect or discipline.. And normal people are fence sitters

 

[dave]

People do laugh. You can be walking along the road trying to exercise and someone will yell out that you're fat and laugh. Or tell you to join Jenny Craigs...

Instead of taking these comments as insults and crying over them, i'm going to try and think about them when i am exercising and use them to motivate me.

Good motto and some positive attitude, its good to hear it.

I will talk to psych one day. It's too overwhelming for me at the moment. I have been on pills before and i just found that i was swapping one bad habit for the other.

Yes you were, you want a behavioural psychologist not a drug dealer, drugs are not the answer but a last ditch attempt. Don't say one day say tomorrow, it would be the best thing you could do.

Makes me think that BMI doesn't work that well. What if you are a bodybuilder with 10% fat and weigh 100 kilos but BMI says that is overweight.

BMI is crap for a muscular individual. I have always been rated overweight, 12% body fat overweight pfft kiss my ass BMI. The mirror is the way to go.

Also make sure you are eating 5-6 times a day of small meals (about 400calories) like we talked about, no skipping, no big meals.

 

[OutOfControl]

I think i would rather be stereotyped for being a ripped muscly person on roids instead of a fat lazy piece of crap lol

Although i know skinny people who get upset at being called skinny... but people don't think calling someone skinny is an insult. Like plenty of fat people would say "eat something"... and then turn around and be upset if the skinny person said "stop eating".

So today .. i had a glass of apple juice around breakfast, then 2 boiled eggs and 2 pieces of toast in the afternoon, 1 can of pepsi max, then at about 10pm i had a sandwich with tuna and this stuff called salad mix sprouts, and i put cucumber on it. Plus i had about 3 mandarins, 2 sticks of celery and i tried to smash my 3 litres of water. Bad idea before bed...

I think tomorrow i'll make myself eat oats for breakfast, because i read some peoples eating plans on here and they were eating oats for breakfast.

My arms are like sausages. I'm paranoid they are going to get all saggy like the winner of biggest loser, her upper arms flap in the wind. How annoying after you lost all that weight to still have to hide things!

... Dave i don't want to go to the doctor / psych person lol. They really do give you pills straight away. I don't want to go on pills and if you won't take the pills they think you aren't willing to change. Why does everyone with a problem need to go on medication? They don't give them out as a last resort, they peddle them to everyone, because way back when i was 80-85 kilos i went to the Doc. I told him i was concerned about my weight and how it upsets me and i want to change.

He never examined me at all. He talked to me for all of about 5 minutes and asked me a list of check-list questions. Then gave me anti-depression meds. That's not what i wanted but i didn't know that you could question doctors. I just thought they knew what was best. It really messed with me taking those pills and it obviously didn't work very well for me cause now im over 120 kilos.

I've been reading this site and i'm taking bits of info from every where and trying to work out something just for me. If i don't lose any weight i'll give in and go back to the doctors. I'm not in a very big area and there aren't a variety of specialist doctors available to me. There are no over-eaters groups either.

There is some group therapy thing at the hospital which is for any type of mental illnes... but would you want to go to that in a small area? I would bump into people i know and then they would spread it around that i am "crazy". I've been in hospital before and even some of the staff were like "hows your mum.... hows your dad.."... because everyone knows everyone.

Plus i don't like the idea of sitting around sharing my personal medical stuff with a bunch of other people. Online is ok because you don't know me. Even here i keep deleting things i type because i think i'm getting too personal.

I don't want to die and i don't want to be fat. I am feeling pretty motivated at the moment thanks to everyone here. If i can make my motivation last long enough to lose 20 or 30 kilos.. then i will seek outside help to prevent myself from failing again.

This was a long message lol. I'm going to catch my beauty sleep. Keep pumping that iron!

One last thing... Kola nut sounds interesting i haven't heard of it before. Is that a health shop thing or am i going to need to find a guy in a dark alley to buy it off lol.

 

[OutOfControl]

I would love to see your before and after pics boyfromaus! That's a nice achievement, you must feel great

 

[nievs]

So today .. i had a glass of apple juice around breakfast, then 2 boiled eggs and 2 pieces of toast in the afternoon, 1 can of pepsi max, then at about 10pm i had a sandwich with tuna and this stuff called salad mix sprouts, and i put cucumber on it. Plus i had about 3 mandarins, 2 sticks of celery and i tried to smash my 3 litres of water. Bad idea before bed...

Ok, this is what I will be having today:

• 3 boiled eggs
• 185gm tuna in olive oil, cucumber, tomato, mushrooms
• 185gm tuna in olive oil, cucumber, tomato, mushrooms
• 185gm tuna in olive oil, cucumber, tomato, mushrooms
• 185gm tuna in olive oil, cucumber, tomato, mushrooms
• Chicken breast with broccoli (Post workout)
• Chicken breast with broccoli

Tomorrow will be same, though without the postworkout meal. As well the next day and the day after until I go shopping again.

Notice something? Aside from the tuna, nothing is processed. There is protein from tuna/chicken/eggs in every meal. I eat every 3 hours. There are no man made carbs (bread etc). No soft drink. No juice. There might be a coffee in the morning but there will be no sugar.

Now look at your diet.

Don't get me wrong we genuinely want you to succeed. But you need a kick up the bum cause you are not putting into practice what's been written in this thread.

I'm not a <10% fat bodybuilder, far from it. I'm just a normal guy who lifts weights and recommending this because it works.

 

[Sticky]

Let me get this straight. You had 2 meals all day, 1 of which was at 10pm and consisted of fruit and bread, then tried to smash 3L of water?
I'm not a nutritionist, but even I know that's not right. You need a good, solid breakfast like oats + fruit or something. You should eat every 2-3 hours, their is a reason. You should not be drinking calories (soft drinks, juice)
This is an exapmle of a guy that has gone from almost 150 to 115.

"This is what i ate yesterday, and pretty much every day lol

0600
2 Eggs – Cal294 Pro19.1 F24.2g Carb0.4
1 Rash Bacon - Cal114 Pro15.7 F5.5 Carb0.5

1000
Apple - Cal68 Pro0.4 F0 Carb14.6

1200
Half potato - Cal20 Pro1.2 F0 Carb5.6
1 carrot – Cal27 Pro0.7 F0.1 Carb4.1
half cup peas - Cal44 Pro3.6 F0.3 Carb4.8
200g chicken breast – Cal330 Pro62 F7.1 Carb0


1400
Banana – Cal99 Pro1.9 F0.1 Carb21.8

1600
75g nuts – Cal446 Pro17.6 F36.9 Carb9.9

1800
Half potato - Cal20 Pro1.2 F0 Carb5.6
1 carrot - Cal27 Pro0.7 F0.1 Carb4.1
half cup peas - Pro3.6 F0.3 Carb4.8
200g steak – Cal354 Pro63 F11 Carb0

2030
300mL Skim milk – Cal105 Pro10.5 F0.3 Carb14.7
30g WPI Cal135 Pro31.9 F0.3 Carb0.6

Total
Cal 2127, Pro 233.1g, Fat 86.2g, Carb 91.5g

I mix it up a bit with like salad for lunch sometime and like tuna instead of chicken etc but that is basically what i eat every day and have done for 6 months now."

Now, this might not be right for you. But look at how often he eats. Look at what time he eats his last peice of fruit. Can you see where he is drinking soft drinks and juices? It is very boring eating the same food every day for weeks or even months, but how much do you want to change? I know I do.
In this thread alone you are armed with alot of good infomation. Have another read of this thread and see if you can come up with a diet a little better than the one you had yesteday. You need to write it down, and follow it like a religion.


P.s, to the owner of the diet - Hope you don't mind me posting it in here, it's just a good example of what can be done.
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[Gauche]

Kolanut can be purschased from xtremeherbs.com.au I think. It's been a year or so since I used it. Make sure you read up about it first so you know what your doing. Certainly don't over use it either. My extent was using it for cutting diets and using it for sat nights. Like I said the lesser of two evils.

Fadi also posted a thread on drinking to much water too quickly. Try and space it out a little more. Diets are clockwork. I would post the link but I'm on my phone.
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[Christian]

Im going to make it easy with some tips for you...


NO CAFFINE

NO PROCESSED FOODS BISCUITS AND RUBBISH

IF YOU WANT BREAD EAT WHOLEMEAL LEABANESE BREAD AND ONLY AT BREAKFAST AND TO REPLACE OATS

LEBANESE CUCUMBERS AND CARROTS ARE A GOOD SNACK WITH SMALL AMOUNT OF HOMMUS

EAT 5 VERY SMALL MEALS THROUGH OUT THE DAY

EVERY MEAL MUST CONSIST OF A VARIETY OF VEGETABLES OR SALAD

EAT FRUIT BERRIES MAINLY FOR BREAKFAST ONLY

DRINK 3L OF WATER DAILY SPREAD OUT NOT ALL AT ONCE, YOUR BODY CAN ONLY UTILIZE SMALL AMOUNTS AT A TIME AND IF IT IS OVERLOADED YOU PIS IT OUT SO THAT IS USELESS.

BUY A 1L STIANLESS STEEL BOTTLE FILL IT 3 TIMES THROUGH OUT THE DAY

AVOID NUTS AS A SNACK ALONE AS YOU WILL NOT STOP AT THE REQUIRED AMOUNT INSTEAD ADD SEEDS NUTS AND LEGUMES TO SALADS

EGGS FOR BREAKFAST

TUNA FOR MORNING TEA

CHICKEN SALAD FOR LUNCH NO SKIN

DO NOT DRINK ANYTHING BESIDES WATER OR FRESH VEGETABLE JUICE

DO NOT GO MORE THEN 2.5 HOURS WITHOUT EATING YOUR SMALL MEAL

NO MOT MISS BREAKFAST

START BUYING KANGAROO AS IT IS LEANER THEN BEEF/LAMB AND DOES NOT REQURIRE HORMONES TO BE ADDED

INVEST IN A GOOD MULTIVITAMIN TRESO B BY EAGLE IS LIKE 18.5 FOR 50 TABLETS

1 TABLESPOON OF ORGANIC BEE POLLEN WITH BREAKFAST

ADD OLIVE OIL TO YOUR SALADS AND ORGANIC APPLE SIDER VINIGER

SQUEEZE A LEMON INTO YOUR DAILY WATER

EXERCISE DAILY

REAPEAT DAILY
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ADD THIS TO YOUR LIFE AND NEVERLOOK BACK




Its not a meal unless it has essential fatty acuds minerals vitamins nutrients protein in proper amounts!

 

[OutOfControl]

Wow thanks everyone. I haven't been shopping yet but it looks like i need to get heaps of new things. For starters i never eat vegetables or meat. I don't think i could stomach a chunk of meat. The only thing i will eat is tins of tuna, but i get the 90gram ones that have flavour.

Is flavoured bad for you? The one i had last night was greenseas lemon/pepper. Before i put it on my sandwich i squished it with a fork trying to get all the fat and juices out of it... i think it was about 15g protein...

I'm eating the biggest bowl of oats right now. It's like a bowl of sloppy cardboard lol. I added a banana to try and get some flavour. Usually i would put syrup and sugar all over it. Do you really just eat oats with no flavour on it? I cooked the oats in full cream long life milk.

Can i use low fat mayonnaise or salad dressings on salads and sandwiches?

So today

10:30 - oats cooked in milk / banana / mandarin / glass of water

I should probably start eating earlier. Tomorrow i will eat at 8am or something. The bread i had last night was white bread. I'll get wholemeal today.

In the shake diet i did we were only allowed like 2 carrots a week because of the carbs or something... do you think i would be ok to eat them every day? I like carrots because it takes me ages to eat a whole one and gives me something to chew.

Would this work :


(Breakfast) Meal 1 - oats / glass of milk with oats/ fruit - 8AM

Meal 2 - fruit - 10AM

(Lunch) Meal 3 - Tin of tuna / salad - 12PM

Meal 4 - nuts / or glass of skim milk - 3PM

(Dinner) Meal 5 - Tuna / 2 pieces wholemeal bread / vegetables - 6PM

Meal 6 - carrot / celery - 8PM


It seems like a lot of food... if i have 250mls of water at every meal.. that's like 1.5litres. So in between all those meals i will try and have the other 1.5litres of water spaced out. With the exercise... how much should i do a day. I could do some in the morning and some at night. Is it bad to exercise before bed?

How do you go eating around people who are eating chocolate and chips and things you like? I really struggle to say no, especially if someone has made me a plate or bought me take away. Like right now there are doritos and salsa on the bench and i know at some point someone is going to eat them, and want to share them with me.

No one pays attention when i say i'm on a diet, mainly because i have failed so many times. They aren't going to stop eating the foods they like so i will have to deal with it.

Instead of tuna at dinner every day, i might use cottage cheese as my protein serving, or an omelet cooked with a bit of olive oil and stacks of veggies added. I haven't started this properly yet because i am still absorbing what i need to do. I'm just trying to eat healthier in the mean time. Yesterday was way better than what i usually do.

Usually i don't drink any water. I will have cans of pepsi or juice instead. I love softdrink. I don't think i drink enough and i'm probably dehydrated all the time. Bread at every meal... lots of salt and sauces added to everything. No veggies, no meat. Tuna occasionally.

Lots of cheese...
Potatoes in every form... hot chips, baked, mashed, boiled
Pizza...
Toasted sandwiches...
Chocolate... i still have chocolate left over from easter. Everyone gave me their chocolate that they didn't want.
Pasta... with bottle pasta sauce

I could buy pizzas and eat it for dinner, breakfast the next day, lunch and dinner again. Or i could eat nothing all day and go and eat hot chips at 4pm and then a chocolate bar and a packet of chips late at night.

How bad is all that. Not to mention all the alcohol i will drink on the weekend. All the sugary alcohol too. No exercise ever.

I gave up on myself big time!

Whatever i lose this week will probably be water weight.

I'm going to do some exercise now. It's so shameful reading all that back.

And i'll suss out the kola nut later. I think i might need some for the weekend.