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Demoralised and looking for advice
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I hear excuses... Instead of posting you could be working out
I havent worked out in a while. I should probably stop procrastinating.
Last assignment - this wednesday.
I wish I could not train the squat like this lol
YouTube - eduardo guadamud 310 x 2 squad
YouTube - Hossein Reza Zadeh 305kg squat
YouTube - eduardo guadamud 310 x 2 squad
YouTube - Hossein Reza Zadeh 305kg squat
I dont know, they're always so serious business in their spandex suits...
I never really started powerlifting because I was interested in a sport - i was just over being skinny and unco and wanted to do something about it. I figured if I chased after the squat, bench and deadlift i wasnt going to be small you know?
I sympathize a lot more with powerlifters. You can go into any gym in the world and find a squat rack, olympic barbell set and bench press and figure it out yourself.
Oh, no question OL is elitist and cant be practiced in commercial gyms, while PL is available to anyone.
But OL leave powerlifters for dead for pure strength and athleticism. I am generalizing, as there are some freakish PL at the top level, but every OL at the top level is freakish.
PL have all that equipment to blame.
But OL leave powerlifters for dead for pure strength and athleticism. I am generalizing, as there are some freakish PL at the top level, but every OL at the top level is freakish.
PL have all that equipment to blame.
YouTube - Malanichev squat 480 Titans cup 2010 - malanichev, single ply. (a little high, still ****ing epic).
I'd argue that top powerlifters are on par with olympic lifters - something else to note for the general lot of professional powerlifters is that they're not professional - a lot of them like KK work dayjobs. From my understanding of elite OL teams they wank, lift, and wait until the next time they can wank and lift again.
I'd argue that top powerlifters are on par with olympic lifters - something else to note for the general lot of professional powerlifters is that they're not professional - a lot of them like KK work dayjobs. From my understanding of elite OL teams they wank, lift, and wait until the next time they can wank and lift again.
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chrisp
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You are correct markos, ive never had anything to do with ol. But i was talking in ageneral term,and comenting on olivers post, and from my understanding hes just one of us regular guys trying to get big.
Maybe what i should ahve said boss was when I squat hard and heavy I cant the next day,
my bad
Maybe what i should ahve said boss was when I squat hard and heavy I cant the next day,
my bad
Most cant when they start out.
The body is an amazing piece of equipment. It will adapt, in the right conditions.
The tight tan slacks of Deszo Ban is a brilliant site.
Deszo Ban would overhead press every single session, 6 days a week.
Big Jim Williams benched 6 days a week, he was the first man to BP 700lbs.
Our heads are filled with things we cant do, society is infinitely weaker today than back then.
No internet for Jim, no one told him he couldnt bench every day, so he did, till he benched 700lbs in a T Shirt.
Once I realize I have a lifter who's head is in the right place, I wont tell him what he cant do, only what he can. This technique has worked best with big Nick.
You guys might think he is a big cocky guy because of his lifts, trust me he's not. He has no idea how strong he's going to get. He's deadlifted 600lbs without a belt inside 2 years training the lift.
Nick will total 700kg raw very shortly, and he wont be overweight when he does it. If he's still lifting when he's 30, lookout.
The body is an amazing piece of equipment. It will adapt, in the right conditions.
The tight tan slacks of Deszo Ban is a brilliant site.
Deszo Ban would overhead press every single session, 6 days a week.
Big Jim Williams benched 6 days a week, he was the first man to BP 700lbs.
Our heads are filled with things we cant do, society is infinitely weaker today than back then.
No internet for Jim, no one told him he couldnt bench every day, so he did, till he benched 700lbs in a T Shirt.
Once I realize I have a lifter who's head is in the right place, I wont tell him what he cant do, only what he can. This technique has worked best with big Nick.
You guys might think he is a big cocky guy because of his lifts, trust me he's not. He has no idea how strong he's going to get. He's deadlifted 600lbs without a belt inside 2 years training the lift.
Nick will total 700kg raw very shortly, and he wont be overweight when he does it. If he's still lifting when he's 30, lookout.
Kyle Aaron
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I think your lifts are excellent, sure as sht better than anything I ever did, or have coached anyone to do (so far!) But you spoke of stalling because of volume. I don't think it was necessarily the volume that did it, people far physically weaker than you in every way are able to handle higher volume.
Really?Oliver04 said:
Oliver, an important part of knowledge is knowing the limits of it. I've never done a snatch or clean and jerk in my life. I wouldn't pretend to know about Olympic lifters and how they train - enough to discuss it casually like here, but not enough to advise anyone, that's for sure. So either I say, "I don't know," or I say, "I didn't know, so I looked it up."
Your statement seemed a bit odd. I'd heard similar statements a few years back from others, they seemed odd to me then, too. I mean, there are squatting-type movements involved in the two lifts, surely they'd train the individual movements separately and then put them together for the actual lift? Seems like a reasonable approach. But I didn't know for sure, I looked it up.
Bulgarians, 1986. They began every day with back squatting.
24 years later at Phoenix in Oakleigh, they have compiled a list of their lifts.Oliver04 said:
Amongst those, the back squat. They get numbers like 165, 200, 145 with a groin injury, 200, 230, 150, 300 (from 1975-78), 260, 300, 280, 160, 240, 212.5...
If people are squatting a quarter-tonne without training specifically for the squat, well I would like to not train specifically for the squat, too.
Where did I propose that? Where in this thread have I offered a specific programme other than "do legs, pull, push every session, start where you want, just do more every session"?Oliver04 said:
If your reading comprehension is this poor all the time I worry for your performance at uni.