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Fadi
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1. One has to take the point of diminishing returns when considering lifting weights above and beyond a certain percentage over their 1RM competition lift.
2. One has to take into consideration the potential increase of injury to the body’s connective tissue/joints, ligaments etc. when applying max effort.
3. One has to look at the real life results of one’s competition lifts where it counts the most, on the lifting platform, and if the results mirror the training efforts.
4. It’s one thing for a lifter who applies the max effort in the gym to win by a large margin or to break a world record by a large margin, or to be so much in front of the competition. And it’s something altogether different (and very disappointing indeed) if that lifter with ALL his max effort training does not result in a win or something extra-ordinary above the lifters who do not apply max effort training in the gym.
5. Please read point #4 again, and then relate it to real world results. If you should find what I’m saying in point #4 to be false, then I’m wrong in what I’m saying and I apologise to each and every individual on this forum or an outsider reading this now.
Fadi.
2. One has to take into consideration the potential increase of injury to the body’s connective tissue/joints, ligaments etc. when applying max effort.
3. One has to look at the real life results of one’s competition lifts where it counts the most, on the lifting platform, and if the results mirror the training efforts.
4. It’s one thing for a lifter who applies the max effort in the gym to win by a large margin or to break a world record by a large margin, or to be so much in front of the competition. And it’s something altogether different (and very disappointing indeed) if that lifter with ALL his max effort training does not result in a win or something extra-ordinary above the lifters who do not apply max effort training in the gym.
5. Please read point #4 again, and then relate it to real world results. If you should find what I’m saying in point #4 to be false, then I’m wrong in what I’m saying and I apologise to each and every individual on this forum or an outsider reading this now.
Fadi.
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Fadi
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In weightlifting, whenever a lifter applies the deficit method, he does so with the intention of either increasing power at a particular point of the lift and/or minimising or eliminating a weak link in the lift.
A point some of you may find very interesting, and something which have personally experienced back in 1983, was that at times, lifting from a deficit position, one can actually lift more, albeit slightly more! How can that be or why does that occur you may be wondering, especially when one has just lost some crucial power generating distance (say from the floor to the knees).
This phenomenon occurs under one condition and one condition only as far as I know and have experienced first-hand.
A) How it occurs? It occurs when your lift is done from a hanging position.
B) Why, what is so significant about the position being from the hang as opposed to the load being “rested” on something (to create a deficit). It has something (I can not prove), and that something is muscle under tension (or contraction). In other words, if a muscle is already under tension, it seems to generate more force, explosiveness, with muscles that are in a “primed” state, ready for serious action in a blink of an eye lid. How would that relate to what this thread is about and to Karen’s initial post? I’m not 100% sure, but a discussion to find a way to perform a dead lift from a very slight hang position may be in order here.
Fadi.
A point some of you may find very interesting, and something which have personally experienced back in 1983, was that at times, lifting from a deficit position, one can actually lift more, albeit slightly more! How can that be or why does that occur you may be wondering, especially when one has just lost some crucial power generating distance (say from the floor to the knees).
This phenomenon occurs under one condition and one condition only as far as I know and have experienced first-hand.
A) How it occurs? It occurs when your lift is done from a hanging position.
B) Why, what is so significant about the position being from the hang as opposed to the load being “rested” on something (to create a deficit). It has something (I can not prove), and that something is muscle under tension (or contraction). In other words, if a muscle is already under tension, it seems to generate more force, explosiveness, with muscles that are in a “primed” state, ready for serious action in a blink of an eye lid. How would that relate to what this thread is about and to Karen’s initial post? I’m not 100% sure, but a discussion to find a way to perform a dead lift from a very slight hang position may be in order here.
Fadi.
The Hamburgler
Spotter Loader
Here you go
Pulls on 2" and 4", wide and close stance
http://www.westside-barbell.com/articles/deadlift-training-mar2012/
Please post your citation/double blind study/other bullshit research to back up this claim.
The internet is a great resource, but at some point you have to stop analyzing everything to death and actually lift some heavy arse weights.
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0ni
Registered Rustler
Ironic how you say this when I am the one trying out different outrageous training philosophies for 5 months at a time and you're the one sitting on the internet saying something can't work
Danimal
PTC Perth
I cant believe some of the shit I read on here. haha