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Theory i have

no, statement too cocky for my liking.


He is like the mighty mouse that roared.


I agree, specificity of event normally demands regular execution of a movement.
 
Howdy again.

I think you all have misunderstood what I was trying to get at.

I have just started a Powerlifting programme and I am not wanting to waste days doing things that will not make me stronger. In particular the XPLOSIVE or DYNAMIC day.

I just used OLY lifters as an example of a FAST TWITCH sport, in that I read the XPLOSIVE training is needed as part of a POWER LIFTING programme as it activates more fast twitch fibers which increase power, therefore strength.

I was wanting confirmation of my interpretation of that as being correct.

and that's why I made sense to me, in that The top OLY lifters though they may only train chest once a year, can generally flat bench extremely heavy weights. All being down to fast twitch and the XPLOSIVE nature of the way they train.

Yet other people are saying just lift heavy and dynamic days are a waste, I am confused as hell.

That's all.
 
Silverback said:
What?

You don't think she getting good advice here?
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LOL yes, I do.

But given that she is obviously looking for more than "just do the movement and do it often", I thought I would point her to someone who specialises in olympic lifting and biomechanics to find out more, if she wants to.

Poor Oni .. makes a useful statement, but just like the boy who cried wolf, it's too little too late for the village ;)
 
Still waiting for these oly lifter bench monsters.

On that theory than bodybuilders should be unable to bench at all as they primarily train slow twitch.

Yet I bet there is more top bbers benching 200kg than top olympic lifters.
 
spartacus said:
most, not sure about that.

He is a very rude person, ego and confidence much bigger than his size.
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I don't really see the problem with the final accusation and the 2nd one is often a requirement as well if you want to make something of yourself.

I don't get how you can say someone's advice is lacking in wisdom because you think they're too cocky yet agree with them straight afterwards?
 
yes, dreadlift, that is what I was responding to. I don't really think there is much crossover, if an Olympic lifter does not do bench.

I think the biggest bench I heard of by a lifter (aussie) in early 1980s was bob Edmond, but he was be benching less than 200kg but could clean and jerk more.
 
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Misslifty

FWIW
and in a roundabout way, I'm telling you speed work is a waste of time, especially in powerlifting.

like any sport, practice, practice, practice.

What I wrote previous....the fundamentals to skills training, gym work and game day applies to any sport.
 
misslifty:
- strength can mean different things in different sports
- in powerlifting, maximal strength is about generating maximal force.
- developing maximal force can be accomplished different ways. There is a range of views about what the best way is, hence we have a range of different training philosophies and programs
- arguably speed days, depending on how they're done, train power production and rate of force development, but this is not necessarily an important quality for powerlifting, where the test is maximal strength
- your theory relies on the assumption that "that's why a SPEED/XPLOSIVE day is included for each exercise in most successful powerlifting programmes". This is a non sequitur and it's false. Speed days are not in most powerlifting programs, let along most successful ones. DE days are in westside (but whether this actually constitutes "speed work" is up for debate as you use accomodating resistance). Light days are often in traditional periodisation programs, but not in all of them. There are no light days in any of the Eastern European training methods.
- there are alternative reasons why speed days might work for some people, eg active recovery, skill practice etc.
- I'm very skeptical of your claim that the majority of oly lifters you know can bench over 200kg.
 
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