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short rest vs long rest between sets

I think shorter rest periods are better for aesthetic purposes. I prefer to keep them shorter as I don't like to do much cardio in the gym. If you're not able to lift as much weight because your rest breaks aren't as long, it doesn't matter, as long as you are progressing (albeit with shorter rest breaks).

[Also - Bazza, you're nothing if not consistent. I'm sure if I did a search on recent posts by you we would find you posting in a number of threads in the bodybuilding section saying "who on here bodybuilds". It doesn't contribute to anything. I'd rather not have to trawl through 10 pages of bodybuilding v powerlifting trolling (which you ignited by your comment on the first page with "Lets not confuse bodybuilders with your standard gym goer trying to look better either.") in order to see if anything useful was posted in this thread.]
 
judgey said:
[Also - Bazza, you're nothing if not consistent. I'm sure if I did a search on recent posts by you we would find you posting in a number of threads in the bodybuilding section saying "who on here bodybuilds". It doesn't contribute to anything. I'd rather not have to trawl through 10 pages of bodybuilding v powerlifting trolling (which you ignited by your comment on the first page with "Lets not confuse bodybuilders with your standard gym goer trying to look better either.") in order to see if anything useful was posted in this thread.]
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It is warranted though, more advanced bodybuilding style methods and routines are good for bodybuilders, but less so for novice wannabe bodybuilders who barely look like they can pick up a weight let alone step on stage.

I'm going to be a broken record too and say that most people on here are neither powerlifters or bodybuilders yet and as such should really be continuing on a healthy combination of both strength and hypertrophy style training until they are big and strong enough to specialise.
 
judgey said:
[Also - Bazza, you're nothing if not consistent. I'm sure if I did a search on recent posts by you we would find you posting in a number of threads in the bodybuilding section saying "who on here bodybuilds". It doesn't contribute to anything. I'd rather not have to trawl through 10 pages of bodybuilding v powerlifting trolling (which you ignited by your comment on the first page with "Lets not confuse bodybuilders with your standard gym goer trying to look better either.") in order to see if anything useful was posted in this thread.]
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It's a legitimate point. There is a big difference between the bodybuilder and most guys that go to the gym who want big guns and abs but call themselves bodybuilders.
 
Fair enough guys, thanks for your response. I don't want to take the thread further off track so maybe I will get your opinion on this in another thread.
 
El Freako said:
Oh man, you're not normal stupid, you're an advanced type of stupid. Seriously.
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Reminds me of

gh15 said:
you friend are a deep level retard,, your knowledge about bodybuild is close to zero and i truly mean it ,, both natural and hormonized,,even in the natural which doesnt exisist your knowledge is zero ,, you just talk balonie all the time its embarsing for you to be honest,,
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Your ability to recover between sets is dictated by your overall conditioning.

This might be a way of explaining this;
If you have two men, one 20 and the other 60 attempt to climb a set of stairs, the 20 yo will quite comfortably do this, while the older will struggle, this is not necessarily due to the older blokes lack of heart lung health but more due to sarcopenia?

I'm not interested in how bodybiulders and power lifters train, the fact is its the degree of muscle mass that actually supports the system at the cellular level.

You ability to to quickly recover between sets is a very good indication of good conditioning.

There is no versus this or that here.

I will add that after completing a very brutal short intense work leaves you having to lie down and then thinking you could do that again after one hour means that your conditioning is very good.
 
I can't remember where I read it so I'll have a hunt around. Apparently they did a study on rest times on weight trainers. Long story short, they found that rest periods of 1min, 2 min and 3 min respectively improved for the following set. But no significant increase for above 3 mins.
 
I think that for people that want to live a healthy life, a minimum of one and a maximum of two full body workouts to fatigue (failure) is sufficient to cover all bases, there is no need for extra "aerobic" activity.
 
I personally have no interest in professional, competing, practicing, pretending bodybuilding, I think it lost its way with the introduction of steroids and supplements and Wieder.

Powerlifting IMO has been following the same path.

I think that most can build big bodies on working hard using barbells in an abbreviated routine and eating good food.
 
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