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JDizzle
Member
I plan to mate
my verdict is..
you 2 are completely gay
The balls didnt touch, just ask nick...
Ahhh... Just to ungay it up in here... I have a quick question or 3.
Ppp goes for 11 weeks right? So the guy/s doing all (squat, bench, dead)... How does it work? Does it finish in 1/3rd the time since they do it 3 times a week or do they lift the same weight and sets and reps at all 3 sessions?
If I'm 33 and not a noob but still kinda weak is this something I should try or do it one lift per day as designed?
Ppp goes for 11 weeks right? So the guy/s doing all (squat, bench, dead)... How does it work? Does it finish in 1/3rd the time since they do it 3 times a week or do they lift the same weight and sets and reps at all 3 sessions?
If I'm 33 and not a noob but still kinda weak is this something I should try or do it one lift per day as designed?
Paullie
New member
You shouldnt do more than 1 cycle for each lift more than once per week, its not designed that way.
The guys doing PPP for the three lifts still do one cycle per lift per week.
It still all finished in 11 weeks.
Make sense?
I know Markos has some guys doing two cycles for bench, but I dont think thats what its intended for.
The guys doing PPP for the three lifts still do one cycle per lift per week.
It still all finished in 11 weeks.
Make sense?
I know Markos has some guys doing two cycles for bench, but I dont think thats what its intended for.
Balance is one thing but balance over a micro cycle (weeks/months) isn't as important as balance over a macro cycle (years).
Something I bitch about constantly on here is how much shit people do doing programs. Like 3-4 different types of bench press, 4-5 types of deadlift assistance. Even if one of them worked (which they never do when you do them all at once) you wouldn't have a clue because the variables are never isolated.
The only assistance exercises I'd say are a must over the macro cycle are the same as you do in a beginners program - overheads, chins and bent rows. They cover all basis. A hamstring exercise never hurt anyone, nor did an ab or tricep exercise, but if I was pushed I'd be more than happy to drop them.
Something I bitch about constantly on here is how much shit people do doing programs. Like 3-4 different types of bench press, 4-5 types of deadlift assistance. Even if one of them worked (which they never do when you do them all at once) you wouldn't have a clue because the variables are never isolated.
The only assistance exercises I'd say are a must over the macro cycle are the same as you do in a beginners program - overheads, chins and bent rows. They cover all basis. A hamstring exercise never hurt anyone, nor did an ab or tricep exercise, but if I was pushed I'd be more than happy to drop them.
Paullie
New member
I totally agree with you. Deads, bench, squats, rows, chins and overheads are 95% of what I do. Ive only started to do some sldl for some variety, and im doing trap bar deads because im working around an injury.
But I 100% agree.
I might actually look at incorporating more PPP.
But I 100% agree.
I might actually look at incorporating more PPP.
some_cs_student
New member
Minor correction, twice a week
I obviously can't do that for too long as doing a 12 week program is 6 weeks is way too fast for development (especially when your doing more than 5kg jumps).
I think I successfully did PPP twice per week for about 3 weeks...
ok sounds a lot tougher than I thought it would be..
I'll stick to 1 movement per day and PPP for all 3.
4 cycles will be done in 2011 (if no injuries..)
I assume that I will only be able to go up by 5kg for 1rm per cycle.. but on that 11th week after getting the noted max, I will try to go heavier for one more etc till I fail and work out my new 1rm for the next cycle from that.
I am 100% certain that bench will only go up by 5kg.. it sucks big time.
Will get back on the fish oil tablets to help the knees and elbows.
Will drink more concrete to try and man handle deads properly.
I'll stick to 1 movement per day and PPP for all 3.
4 cycles will be done in 2011 (if no injuries..)
I assume that I will only be able to go up by 5kg for 1rm per cycle.. but on that 11th week after getting the noted max, I will try to go heavier for one more etc till I fail and work out my new 1rm for the next cycle from that.
I am 100% certain that bench will only go up by 5kg.. it sucks big time.
Will get back on the fish oil tablets to help the knees and elbows.
Will drink more concrete to try and man handle deads properly.
JDizzle
Member
TTT, in my opinion having done 2.5 cycles of PPP back to back
squat and deadlift
1st cycle +20kg
2nd cycle +15kg
3rd cycle +10kg
4th cycle +5kg or different routine
bench do whatever you can
3rd cycle of ppp is smashing me, Markos did say from memory on here somewhere it might be better to change routines after 2 cycles
squat and deadlift
1st cycle +20kg
2nd cycle +15kg
3rd cycle +10kg
4th cycle +5kg or different routine
bench do whatever you can
3rd cycle of ppp is smashing me, Markos did say from memory on here somewhere it might be better to change routines after 2 cycles
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