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And the Ugly
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God why didn't I know about this? Together at last!
Casey is still going - he is a personal trainer and does a lot of online programming for clients
That dude had alot of thickness too.
No wonder the Mentzer principles worked well for himself, Casey and Dorian.
It wouldn't surpise me if wrestler Chris Benoit followed a Mentzer system.
Casey followed Arthur Jones principles not Mikes (Mike's heavy duty principles were adopted from Arthur Jones - Casey actually felt that Mike's Heavy duty approach was far too little volume as did Arthur)
Goosey
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It's quite difficult getting the facts as back in 1975 to 1990 at Nautilus it was a crazy period and things were slowly getting too big for Arthur to handle, he became pissed of with people ripping him off, suing him and in general he was disliking body builders more and more.
Casey was trained directly by Arthur, he went on to be the youngest ever mr America
Casey moved on because the weider circus had ostracized Arthur, Casey had a need to detach himself from him, move to California and trained with menzter.
Mentzer and his brother did train under Arthur until he found out the menzter had been taking steroids against arthurs instructions, stories of Arthur beating up a bodybiulder behind the shed.
Arthur instructed security not to let him back in the place.
I feel the if Casey had stayed at nautilus he would have gotten even better, the steroids stuffed him up.
Arthur sold nautilus and started medx, keiser bought the europeon rights of Arthur
Casey was trained directly by Arthur, he went on to be the youngest ever mr America
Casey moved on because the weider circus had ostracized Arthur, Casey had a need to detach himself from him, move to California and trained with menzter.
Mentzer and his brother did train under Arthur until he found out the menzter had been taking steroids against arthurs instructions, stories of Arthur beating up a bodybiulder behind the shed.
Arthur instructed security not to let him back in the place.
I feel the if Casey had stayed at nautilus he would have gotten even better, the steroids stuffed him up.
Arthur sold nautilus and started medx, keiser bought the europeon rights of Arthur
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Absolutely - imagine what a monster Casey could have become if he had stayed training with Arthur (not that he wasn't a monster already but just imagine). Still think Ray Mentzer was one of the strongest bodybuilders around.