Deadlifts

[Bazza20]

its ok to be confident mate,I'd even venture to suggest that having confidence can be the difference between getting out of the hole and getting stapled.
I don't mind that sort of mentality in a powerlifting setting.
I dont quite approach it the same way however got to appreciate the characters.
Maybe you just follow a little toooo closely looking for weakness lol.
Anyhoo nice chatting..cya.

Not being happy with current performances is what drives me to be better.

If people have inflated opinions of their shitty lifts, good for them.

 

[0ni]

Thanks i actually do that sort of assistance but more based on how it feels rather than any scientific analysis lol,I'm glad I've sorta got it right to a certain extent.
Fully agree on finding ways that individualise and maximise.but I would qualify that statement to also say that some of us either train too hard or too soft.I'm in both categories lol so sometimes a cookie cutter routine is good just to realign.
I am over 93 at the moment so the reason why I asked about speed,is that I'm wondering whether to introduce plyo stuff like standing jumps and short sprints to eke some more gains.I have around 6 weeks.

Yeah I find people built to deadlift, they can just do lots, their lower back doesn't take so much of a beating. So it can help to do other exercises as well, back off the deadlifting volume a bit and do more exercises that take the train off of the lower back. People like the 45 degree hyper machine, Sticky likes this exercise called a UDL which is brutal. I don't think plyometrics and jumping is going to help so much personally but if you simply want to be more athletic then go for it.

Oops, had to delete what I wrote. I misread your numbers. I thought you said 30 reps of 90% of 1RM,....I missed the "in 30 minutes" bit. So what exactly does it mean when you say you're genetically gifted in the deadlift Oni? I mean is your deadlift weight way beyond what it should be, or is it way beyond the other two lifts, namely the back squats and bench press? I was never super strong off the floor, I think the max I ever clean pulled for few reps was 175kg (when my best C&J was at 160kg). So I'm curious about the strength of your deadlift. Thank you.



Fadi.

I have long arms and a short torso fadi, it makes the deadlift far easier to train and program than any other lift. No matter what I do my deadlift increases simply because I am built for it. There are a fair few people that get this with squats as well. To get up to 170kg, I would just go into the gym and do 5 heavy deadlifts, 5 heavy squats, 5 heavy benches and 5 heavy presses, once a week. I knew no better lol. Then I started training 3x a week but one deadlift session and I think this was a set of 5 and I got to 190kg very fast. There is a video of me at my first meet doing 190kg and I was going to go for 200kg here but unfortunately I had hurt myself (August 2012)

After this injury (hip flexor tear) I couldn't deadlift so I just squatted every single day. When I was able to deadlift again I quickly got 210kg then 215kg. I was following Sheiko so deadlifting once a week for sets of 2-3 reps at 75-85% of 1RM. (April 2013)

After that, I figured the more I deadlifted the better I got and just deadlifting as often as possible got to to 230kg (June 2013) then 240kg (August 2013) pretty quickly

After this, it was very hard to get up to 250kg fadi, and I did not get it until December when I had been taking testosterone for 2 weeks. Training for this broke my body down a lot and I was unable to beat this until May 2014, despite hitting 250kg a whole bunch of times prior to this and giving myself a nice increase in muscle mass

 

[D1cko]

I suck at bench and squats so it's nice to have good deadlift to even it up a little
[MENTION=8399]0ni[/MENTION]; it took you 5+ months to go from 250kg to 255kg, whats the plan to get to 270kg+ by the end of the year? Specialised Deadlifting program?

 

[0ni]

I suck at bench and squats so it's nice to have good deadlift to even it up a little
@0ni ; it took you 5+ months to go from 250kg to 255kg, whats the plan to get to 270kg+ by the end of the year? Specialised Deadlifting program?

I had really bad knots in my muscles and mobility issues. They say that fixing these issues can give you a performance increase of up to 10%! Well I definitely got that out of my squat! I have some pectoral, lat and trap knotting still to completely fix but at least my legs are good now. I've been doing a lot of higher reps on the deadlift. I started with 5x8 then 5x5 deficits and just moved up to 5x5 then 5x3 then finally singles. At the moment locking out a deadlift hurts because of my trap knotting and daily massaging is needed on it lol. I have a meet on August 3rd and my second attempt is planned for 260kg. Then I'll have a full 16 week prep, 8 of these weeks I will not be going heavy at all, lots of reps to keep me healthy

I am doing 247.5kg on deadlifts today. I'll see if I can get a good video. They are looking very strong recently!

 

[D1cko]

I had really bad knots in my muscles and mobility issues. They say that fixing these issues can give you a performance increase of up to 10%! Well I definitely got that out of my squat! I have some pectoral, lat and trap knotting still to completely fix but at least my legs are good now. I've been doing a lot of higher reps on the deadlift. I started with 5x8 then 5x5 deficits and just moved up to 5x5 then 5x3 then finally singles. At the moment locking out a deadlift hurts because of my trap knotting and daily massaging is needed on it lol. I have a meet on August 3rd and my second attempt is planned for 260kg. Then I'll have a full 16 week prep, 8 of these weeks I will not be going heavy at all, lots of reps to keep me healthy

I am doing 247.5kg on deadlifts today. I'll see if I can get a good video. They are looking very strong recently!

Ok. How did you identify the knotting? Pain or lumps etc?? And besides massaging, what else can you do to fix it? I suspect my adductors/groin are prone to some sort of tightness and I reckon it impacts my squat.

 

[0ni]

Ok. How did you identify the knotting? Pain or lumps etc?? And besides massaging, what else can you do to fix it? I suspect my adductors/groin are prone to some sort of tightness and I reckon it impacts my squat.

Roll an empty barbell over it, if it hurts a lot then keep doing it daily until no pain
It feels like a lump and it hurts yeah

 

[Fadi]

Very well done young tiger, I'm very impressed with your determination above. And thank you for the explanations to my questions.



Fadi.

 

[gerry.]

No being happy with current performances is what drives me to be better.

If people have inflated opinions of their shitty lifts, good for them.

Im sensing a competitive fire bro!

Maybe dishing out ownings here doesnt fulfill it

As for shitty lifts.hey i resemble that remark.lol.

 

[leighaus]

I have pretty shit totals ATM ;

Bench - 105
Squat - 120
Dead - 165 {which I'm not sure I could hit ATM)..

They are all going up though, but deadlifts haven't been as impressive as the others... Which used to be the opposite when I first started.

Interesting to read all these opinions. My goal is to hit a 200kg dead by the new year.
If I don't get there, I've only improved.

I'm 6'¹" and 83kg at the moment.. Always had chicken legs but my squatting (post surgery) has never been better so hoping it all ties in together,.

Anyways... Deads today.. See how I go.


edit - heres what i did .. thoughts?

barbell deadlift
20kg x10 -muscle memory training / skills
70kg x5 -muscle memory training / skills
90 x5
110 x5
130 x5
140 x5
150 x2

all lifts felt good. 150 is equal to the most ive deadlifted in a while. the 165 was from a couple years back to be honest.

doing a split like this once a week recommended? with moving up 2.5/5kg a fortnight and test and reassess?

 

[gerry.]

Definitely no expert but in my opinion ur tall for 83 kg. And you'll hit ur goals when u put on size.Your lifts aren't bad but in my noob experience guys I've seen powerlifting who are 6 1 are at least 105.

Theres like an ideal bmi.

 

[WoodyAllen]

Theres like an ideal bmi.

Yerp.

 

[0ni]

I have pretty shit totals ATM ;

Bench - 105
Squat - 120
Dead - 165 {which I'm not sure I could hit ATM)..

They are all going up though, but deadlifts haven't been as impressive as the others... Which used to be the opposite when I first started.

Interesting to read all these opinions. My goal is to hit a 200kg dead by the new year.
If I don't get there, I've only improved.

I'm 6'¹" and 83kg at the moment.. Always had chicken legs but my squatting (post surgery) has never been better so hoping it all ties in together,.

Anyways... Deads today.. See how I go.


edit - heres what i did .. thoughts?

barbell deadlift
20kg x10 -muscle memory training / skills
70kg x5 -muscle memory training / skills
90 x5
110 x5
130 x5
140 x5
150 x2

all lifts felt good. 150 is equal to the most ive deadlifted in a while. the 165 was from a couple years back to be honest.

doing a split like this once a week recommended? with moving up 2.5/5kg a fortnight and test and reassess?

Try more volume man, get at least 5 working sets in a week

 

[gerry.]

Lol Kelvin..that man is bionic.

Enjoy the booming voice too.

 

[Jungnaut]

Why are his arms in such an exaggerated externally rotated position? He must have forgot to roll out his rotator cuff and stretch his chest.

 

[canned tuna]

Why are his arms in such an exaggerated externally rotated position? He must have forgot to roll out his rotator cuff and stretch his chest.

He has a desk job. Can't outsmart the desk job lurch

 

[0ni]

He works as a body guard you idiots

 

[DREADLIFT]

Try more volume man, get at least 5 working sets in a week

He just needs to up his peptide dose obviously.

 

[RyanF]

I've been practicing fukarounditis all year, so none of my lifts are any better than they were towards the end of last year. In attempting to rebuild my deadlifts lately, I found that just practicing them a lot worked wonders initially, but once I got to about 75% of my old 1RM in working weights, technique started breaking down in ways it never had before at that weight. In the past, I've accompanied deadlift training with SLDLs and nordic leg curls, and I think the SLDLs especially have been important in keeping my posterior chain strength up to a standard to maintain technique past a certain point. What's worked for me previously has been doing conventional deadlifts one day a week with linear periodisation (~4 weeks each of 10's, 8's, 5's, and then reduce 1 rep per week in the final 4 weeks leading up to 1RM), and ~3x5-10 SLDLs another day each week, which added 17.5kg to my PB in the first cycle of that, and 12.5kg in the second cycle.

 

[Jungnaut]

Interesting.. I might do SLDL's in my BBB (big but boring) 531 routine and see if that helps.

 

[0ni]

SLDL and RDL are really, really good
I like to start at a 20RM after my main sets of deadlifting and do 5 sets total resting a good 3 minutes between sets. I will add 5kg a session and keep the weight the same when the 5th set has 5 reps or less and increase the weight when I get 6 reps on the last set

This is done after deadlifting or squatting