Carnivore diet.

[spartacus]

per kg makes much more sense.

mst studies say benefit peaks around 1.7-2.0 gms per kg, but experienced strength athletes may have something different to say

 

[Goosey]

Most Protien powder is bad juju
if you love your Protien powder make sure it’s got nothing else except Protien even then you can’t be sure.

if you eat a lot of Protien from unprocessed forms like meat, eggs and vegetables it doesn’t matter how much you eat the only possible bad side effects are obesity.

and if you like milk stop drinking that low fat shit

 

[Goosey]

Once again topics like this get bogged down with studies.

 

[spartacus]

will use 'studies' as much as I like. cheers.

 

[spartacus]

if you eat a lot of Protien from unprocessed forms like meat, eggs and vegetables it doesn’t matter how much you eat the only possible bad side effects are obesity.

and you know all of this for sure, do you.

I think I will keep reading studies also rather than relying on absolute statements like yours for a long time yet.

 

[showdownhero]

Once again topics like this get bogged down with studies.

"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence"

- Christopher Hitchens

 

[spartacus]

i did not think markos would say something like that.

 

[Cum Shot]

What facts? You haven't posted any.

I'm not going to try and engage in someone in a serious debate when their definition of a fact is subjective drivel

These are the facts that i already posted, try to read better next time please:

"There are basic low risk side effects from consuming too much protein such as excess farting, shitting, diarrhea, bloating, constipation, stomach upsets. Now these side effects alone are a reason to not consume high amounts of protein. Other side effects include disrupting the body's normal metabolism and the stress that high protein puts on the liver as all nutrients we consume end up passing through the liver. The liver can only process so many nutrients at one time before it gets over loaded and you get diarrhea for instance. Proteins, carbs, fats, toxins and everything you can imagine all go through the liver. Consuming high amounts of protein puts excess stress on the liver, its as simple as that. If you suffer from diarrhea on a regular basis this can lead to a whole host of health problems."

The fact that you said your "not even going to bother reading that shit". Well this shows how snobbish you are. You see when discussing a topic at hand you listen to the other persons opinion and what they have to say, then from here you make up your own mind as to what your reply will be. You don't do this, instead you just take pot at shots at the person and disregard anything they said. So like i said your a snob that thinks he's better than other people. You act as though you wear a crown on your head and your too good to listen to anyone elses opinion.

Lets say the person you were discussing a topic with was actually wrong and you were right. Does this now mean that this same person is wrong with everything else in life? Obviously not, but once again you take cheat shots and attack the person instead of answering the question at hand.

You come across as an arrogant snob. If you can, please try to open your mind up a bit and take on board other information from other people instead of acting as though your superior.

 

[Cum Shot]

if you eat a lot of Protien from unprocessed forms like meat, eggs and vegetables it doesn’t matter how much you eat the only possible bad side effects are obesity.

100% correct, you can get obese from eating too much protein. Once you gain the fat and its stored on the body then your body has to deal with the side effects of increased BF levels.

Though i do know other side effects that i mentioned earlier can also happen with some people, not everyone but some people.

 

[Cum Shot]

and you know all of this for sure, do you.

I think I will keep reading studies also rather than relying on absolute statements like yours for a long time yet.

A lot of these things we talk about are almost common sense/common knowledge. An example is Oni asking me for a study showing wether or not Australians are difficient in Vitamin D, this is just common knowledge that almost everyone knows is true thats why i didn't product a study. If i have to explain why Australians nowadays are defficient in Vitamin D then i seriously doubt your intelligence.

Studies are flawed on so many levels its not funny. Some studies are true yes, though many are flawed.

 

[Cum Shot]

"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence"

- Christopher Hitchens

The fact that you even quote something like that shows what an arrogant prick you are, deadset.

 

[stronkmanlet]

i reckon a battle royale or some sort of royal rumble will settle this debate.PS i agree with what Woody says,hes a world champ and u kunts are nobodies.

 

[showdownhero]

That fact the you even quote something like that shows what an arrogant prick you are, deadset.

The fact you believe requiring evidence to prove an assertion demonstrates arrogance shows what a bumbling fucktard you are. deadset.

 

[Big Mick]

@showdownhero aside from your immature response i will do you a favour and explain why consuming too much protein isn't always good for your health. There are basic low risk side effects from consuming too much protein such as excess farting, shitting, diarrhea, bloating, constipation, stomach upsets.

You serious?? You can only have constipation OR diarrhea, it seems whatever ailment a person has at the time is blamed on eating meat.

Bloating is mainly cause by eating carbs, I have never been bloated eating meat.

Now these side effects alone are a reason to not consume high amounts of protein. Other side effects include disrupting the body's normal metabolism and the stress that high protein puts on the liver as all nutrients we consume end up passing through the liver. The liver can only process so many nutrients at one time before it gets over loaded and you get diarrhea for instance. Proteins, carbs, fats, toxins and everything you can imagine all go through the liver. Consuming high amounts of protein puts excess stress on the liver, its as simple as that. If you suffer from diarrhea on a regular basis this can lead to a whole host of health problems.

This is only the case if carbs are consumed with the protein, in the absence of carbs these 'issues' disappear.

 

[Big Mick]

Most Protien powder is bad juju
if you love your Protien powder make sure it’s got nothing else except Protien even then you can’t be sure.

if you eat a lot of Protien from unprocessed forms like meat, eggs and vegetables it doesn’t matter how much you eat the only possible bad side effects are obesity.

and if you like milk stop drinking that low fat shit

The absence of fat is the problem with most protein powders. The more processed the protein powder (the purer) the more it spikes insulin, a highly processed pure WPI will spike your insulin and contribute to insulin resistance the same as eating carbs.

 

[Big Mick]

These are the facts that i already posted, try to read better next time please:

"There are basic low risk side effects from consuming too much protein such as excess farting, shitting, diarrhea, bloating, constipation, stomach upsets.

Not true and definitely not facts, it's barely hearsay, and mostly myth.

Other side effects include disrupting the body's normal metabolism and the stress that high protein puts on the liver as all nutrients we consume end up passing through the liver. The liver can only process so many nutrients at one time before it gets over loaded and you get diarrhea for instance. Proteins, carbs, fats, toxins and everything you can imagine all go through the liver. Consuming high amounts of protein puts excess stress on the liver, its as simple as that. If you suffer from diarrhea on a regular basis this can lead to a whole host of health problems."

Again not a fact, and barely a bad myth, there is no evidence of this, and trust me I have searched long and hard, just because 'they' say so does not make it so.

Still trying to figure out who 'they' are, and why people believe this false information since no such evidence exists.

So do we get diarrhea or constipation? Again they are just blaming whatever symptom on eating meat.

Go to your GP and tell them you have a cough and that you smoke, I bet he won't look any further and blame it on smoking, even though it could be caused by the lead paint in your house, but your GP has now found a cause (your smoking), and he won't bother looking for the real reason.

 

[Cum Shot]

The fact you believe requiring evidence to prove an assertion demonstrates arrogance shows what a bumbling fucktard you are. deadset.

It is stupid yes, especially when what we are talking about is common knowledge. Shows your common knowledge in this area is limited e.g. you don't know how the body metabolises nutrients and the fact that these nutrients pass through the liver.

 

[showdownhero]

A lot of these things we talk about are almost common sense/common knowledge. An example is Oni asking me for a study showing wether or not Australians are difficient in Vitamin D, this is just common knowledge that almost everyone knows is true thats why i didn't product a study. If i have to explain why Australians nowadays are defficient in Vitamin D then i seriously doubt your intelligence.

Studies are flawed on so many levels its not funny. Some studies are true yes, though many are flawed.

Australia is one of the least Vitamin D deficient countries in the world, only behind South Africa

 

[showdownhero]

hurr durr i'm a retard

couldn't agree more

 

[Cum Shot]

You serious?? You can only have constipation OR diarrhea, it seems whatever ailment a person has at the time is blamed on eating meat.

Bloating is mainly cause by eating carbs, I have never been bloated eating meat.



This is only the case if carbs are consumed with the protein, in the absence of carbs these 'issues' disappear.

Yes i am serious. Constipation and diarrhea can be caused by a whole host of things, not just meat. Even vegetables can cause diarrhea.

If you eat a kilo of any meat without any carbs then your more than likely going to feel a little strange. Its like a brick in your stomach just sitting there. You need a shitload of fibre to help it digest.

And yes protein with carbs can cause the problems i mentioned. When i talk about high protein, this doesn't mean i have eliminated carbs. High protein is still high protein wether you have carbs or not.