Anyone dealing with depression of anxiety?

[Christian]

I can understand that and know that but at the end of the day I still think that something needs to flick the switch on this and it not just come down to say a hormone inbalance....

I think it would be a very good idea for him to go to the doctor to get things checked out because if it is as simple as just a hormone inbalance then give him some drugs and he will be sweet...I guess? or is that the case....do u really want ppl treated like that? for me no not really - there has to be an underlining problem that is causing unhappiness....

I know depression can "just be there" but why? - if its thyroid probs or hormone probs etc then its not really depression is it? its a thyroid or hormone imbalance.....

Its very easy for ppl who are unhappy or have depression to just go to the doctor and go on diff drugs and live their life like they did before...but that just masks a problem....ppl need to not go on drugs/supplements etc and work everything out within them self.

I agree 100% problem is with our current medical model we cant really fix people..

Dr's study pharmacology and learn a drug for a disease/disorder. They dont understand what causes the disorder or how to fix the root cause...

Depression is a side effect of the actual problem... And technically speaking so is the thyroid problem. They are all side effects of maybe a few root causes but the problem is we dont know what they are yet.

Through my years of reserach and reading and trying to fix myself though i have seen enough evidence to believe that most problems come down to the liver or the digestive system.. Then that effects the endocrine system... that effects the emotional....

I cant "prove" with a paper, however i can experiment on myself and help people with what i and others have learnt.

I think alot in that book can really hlep kindred to start to understand that his body is made form what he eats. That cell membranes are made out of the type of dietary fats you consume and how the integrity of those membranes can effect your health and happiness.

 

[Rugby88]

I think its sad that our society has casued a problem like this and things will only get worse....sad to see...just gotta keep things simple, be happy within yourself and not read into things as much.

 

[kindred]

I don't blame society. Its just the way it is. However the fact the doctors etc wouldnt help me pisses me off somewhat.

 

[Rugby88]

I don't blame society. Its just the way it is. However the fact the doctors etc wouldnt help me pisses me off somewhat.

Are you unhappy with the things in your life i.e job, money,family/gf or are you just unhappy all the time even if good things are happening to you?

 

[Christian]

I don't blame society. Its just the way it is. However the fact the doctors etc wouldnt help me pisses me off somewhat.

He cant help you if he doesnt know how..

There are alot of things that can fuck up in the human body. Yes it would be nice if people could understand them all but the mind simply cant grasp that much infomation. That is why people pick 1 aspect and run with it for all its worth (i.e for me the neuro-endocrine system) ..

If he hasnt looked into it then he wouldnt know about it.

 

[kindred]

He cant help you if he doesnt know how..

There are alot of things that can fuck up in the human body. Yes it would be nice if people could understand them all but the mind simply cant grasp that much infomation. That is why people pick 1 aspect and run with it for all its worth (i.e for me the neuro-endocrine system) ..

If he hasnt looked into it then he wouldnt know about it.

That is correct.

 

[Muu]

the question.. anyone dealing with depression of anxiety?

or should you be asking... is anyone a really laid back chilled out muthafucka ?

My Anxiety it's been depressed ...

 

[GHOSTrun]

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[kindred]

Thought id try one last time. The psycologist said I needed to speak to a psyciatrist and or doctor to get medication.

 

[Bazza20]

Thought id try one last time. The psycologist said I needed to speak to a psyciatrist and or doctor to get medication.

Mate listen to them. Your much more likely to get reliable help from them than random unqualified people off the net.

 

[Christian]

Mate listen to them. Your much more likely to get reliable help from them than random unqualified people off the net.

You would want to hope so...

Unfortunatley it doesn't work like that...

 

[dandexter]

I'v been wondering how does being depressed effect your training/strength gains? I'd assume it wouldn't be good. I read through this thread but I didn't see it mentioned.

 

[lazy kent]

I'v been wondering how does being depressed effect your training/strength gains? I'd assume it wouldn't be good. I read through this thread but I didn't see it mentioned.

Let me tell you.

I've suffered from depression since 2006.

It is very hard to actually do anything. Imagine a brick wall falling on top of you. Some days it is difficult to get out of bed, other days you just have to go to bed. Sleeping and waking up the next day sometimes helps.

Reading through this thread I notice a lot of misinformed opinion. Many people seem to think that depression and anxiety are caused by external factors. Whilst this can often be the case, you have to keep in mind that depression and anxiety can be caused by a chemical imbalance.

For example - I have no debt, a good job, a great girlfriend, and two cars. My parents aren't separated, I live in a good neighbourhood.

Part of my problem initially was feeling incredibly guilty. How could I feel so bad when I had it so good? I don't deserve to feel bad when I have everything so good!

When I got help the Doctor explained to me that it is often nothing to do with your life or circumstances, just a biological anomaly.

So going to the gym can often be near impossible, even when you are relatively stable.

 

[Oli]

It is very hard to actually do anything. Imagine a brick wall falling on top of you. Some days it is difficult to get out of bed, other days you just have to go to bed. Sleeping and waking up the next day sometimes helps.

Except when your high, lol.

 

[UCME]

A simple explanation from a clinical level is: Depression is anger turned inward. From a spiritual level, Depression can be seen as the mind wanting to, but is unable to, latch on to something that made it happy in the past or something new that may make it happy. Ever wondered why people become addicted to porn? It's because the mind found pleasure with it and therefore compels the body and consciousness to go there again, and again, and again.

Some people confuse sadness with depression. Sadness is temporary whereas depression can be debilitating. it is important to understand what you are truly feeling.

I believe the worst thing a person can do is try to bury or pass-off sadness, depression, anxiety, anger, and stress. You must face what is preventing you from becoming calm and content, otherwise you will never emerge from the darkness.
Never accept "suck it up", or "get over it". Whoever says those things does not understand the reality of the nature of existence.
I could go on for a very long time, but to help, check out this site Audio Dharma - Gil Fronsdal's Dharma Talks
It is a Buddhist talks repository. Don't be scared away by the B word. It's not aimed at converting anyone nor trying to convince you what ever religion (or lack of) you belong to is wrong. That's not what we're about. These talks are there to help you. They helped me a lot.
I am happy to help others suffering from life's challenges. We do it without applying guilt. Under no circumstance should you accept guilt.
Always know this: you are never alone.

Jesus !! I have been on anti depressents for panic attacks and depression for almost 15 years and have spoken to numerous people and read multiple articles but the line "Depression is anger turned inward." made my heart skip cause that puts into words how i feel daily . I try to explain to people that my default setting towards other people when i first see them or meet them is Hate, i may like the person in a matter of minutes but i hate them up until they show me why I shouldn't (and i work with the public in sales )and the explanation in the post i quoted explains my almost obesesive behaviour with new things "always looking for somthing ". I honestly didnt think my second post on workout forum would be this !! but i had to comment on how profound that post was

 

[Christian]

How come 2 people can be out in the same situation and they are both effected equally?

Surly it isn't the repression of a feeling. Hormones/ neurotransmitters effect thoughts and feelings. Love is a chemical reaction. Naturally something out of balance causes problems..

However the mind can effect the body but it is not the main cause of these problems. We know this only by addressing the biological problems can one work through what they are dealing with.

 

[GHOSTrun]

Kindred sounds like you need to sit down and plan what sort of life you want, then the steps(+timeline) you need to take to achieve it, then make it happen!

Ps. one day I'll start taking my own advice

 

[Goosey]

It's interesting, who do you seek advice from?

Someone who has never experienced depression?
Or a person who has?

I've had some lows in my life, i have had feelings of sadness/overwhelmed but I've never been depressed nor had symptoms of.

 

[B2B]

Hi guys,

Just to share a personal experience…

I am 37 and suffered depression most of my adult life. I think it has been there for much of my childhood too, just not recognised and not as severe.

I have been suicidal and have had periods where I was so numb I couldn’t get out of bed – or where the blackness around me prevented me from functioning.

The solution? In my case, a lot of training (martial arts and BB) and medication. I’ve been on anti-depressants for years and have no plans to stop. Exercise – my martial arts and weight-lifting help just as much as the tabs, but together they make a great combination.

Unfortunately, depression is an illness that most people don’t understand. It is not “feeling down” for a day or two, it is far worse than you can imagine unless you have been there.

It is also commonly accepted that only people with a difficult life suffer depression – much like one of the other guys posted, I have a beautiful wife who has been with me for 14 years, 4 wonderful kids, a great job and earn a good living. My experience of depression is an endogenous one – it is within me and can appear even when my life is the best it is ever been.

My advice is to find a GP who knows what they are dealing with when it comes to depression, talk about it openly with your friends and partner, stay away from alcohol and train like there is no tomorrow.

 

[TTTTTT]

Let me first say you do not ever just cope with depression, you attack it. When I had depression it was due to numerous factors like a shit job (still have it but work less), not knowing what I wanted to do, living at shit place with some shit people, and having a lot of pressure being put on me, I also had to deal with my wifes dad dying so put all those together and it eventually got to me down. I 'coped' with it by eating shit food and stopped exercising two terrible choices. After a while I got over it by fixing what was wrong, confronting people, removing crap things, learning to look more positively on things, dealing with problems as they come up. Theres a lot more to it but basically that the start.

basically the same problems i had, but well on the mend now. Its a messy situation to be in because most docs are useless when it comes to help. I got turned away by my doc, a complete refusal to help because i was too young to have depression (thats what he thought anyway). Best way as dave has mentioned is make the changes yourself.