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That'd be great. He was a top bloke and a good laugh at Nat's.
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arcoe960
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Ok, looks like I've got it sorted.!
Thanks again Markos : hey, LOVE the quote on somebody's profile "Any guy under 70kg is an UGLY chick".! HA HA HA HA HA..!!!!
Ok ; which question(s) 'bout old-time powerlifting/training am I answering.? Can't find any thread hereabouts.? That's my old-age/senility catching-up with me.....
Thanks again Markos : hey, LOVE the quote on somebody's profile "Any guy under 70kg is an UGLY chick".! HA HA HA HA HA..!!!!
Ok ; which question(s) 'bout old-time powerlifting/training am I answering.? Can't find any thread hereabouts.? That's my old-age/senility catching-up with me.....
Totalstrength
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Jonnie is Nathan Jones 110kg lifter big lifter in squats
arcoe960
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Thanks Markos ; takes me back to the Mike Hubon/Shane Blood/Vince Simmonetta days. All 3 of these guys (& also Larry Wallen from U.S.A) were around these numbers in the mid-to-late 80's, & were a HUGE source of inspiration to myself (& others...) during the course of our early competition years. Not sure how old Mr. Jones is, however, these are mightily impressive numbers ; if he can stay injury-free, he'd certainly be looking at sub-900kg totals in the near future.
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arcoe960
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Thanks Dave......
Cheers Dave ; your comments are appreciated. Although....I think you guys could probably teach me a thing-or-two about training, to be honest.! The stuff you're all doing in Markos' garage in sunny Frankston is MORE-than-adequate, &, given time, you'll all hit the big numbers. Trick-is to be patient, stay injury-free (if possible.!) & keep your goals realistic. Back in my days, an 800kg total @ 100kg b'weight was 'Elite 1' on the old AAPLF Grading Scale, & is still pertinent today. I reckon ANY lifter (at about 90-100kg b'weight) who's doing around the 800's in the total is going GREAT guns. You'll get there.!
Cheers Dave ; your comments are appreciated. Although....I think you guys could probably teach me a thing-or-two about training, to be honest.! The stuff you're all doing in Markos' garage in sunny Frankston is MORE-than-adequate, &, given time, you'll all hit the big numbers. Trick-is to be patient, stay injury-free (if possible.!) & keep your goals realistic. Back in my days, an 800kg total @ 100kg b'weight was 'Elite 1' on the old AAPLF Grading Scale, & is still pertinent today. I reckon ANY lifter (at about 90-100kg b'weight) who's doing around the 800's in the total is going GREAT guns. You'll get there.!
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arcoe960
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Thankyou Oliver...
How many days, sets, reps, equipment used, assistance work etc
Thankyou Oliver. Looking through the general conversation in this forum, I see Markos has previously & accurately covered all our early (late 80's to mid-90's..) training at the old Tarzan & Janes' Gym in Seaford, Victoria. Briefly, three days/week, Squats (& associated leg-work) on Mondays, Bench (& associated pressing/tricep/upper-body) work on Wednesday & Deadlifts (Lats., Biceps et.al.) on Friday. The weekend was OFF-LIMITS.! There's a couple of slightly different variations to this schedule which can be used, however, the vast majority of lifters ALL profited from this routine.
In the 1980's, it was 5 sets of 5 reps (prior to competition), however, later we adopted Ed Coan's Training Routine gleaned from an old 'Ironsport' Magazine (which Markos showed me in the late 80's.). If Markos reads this thread, he : 1. May still have this magazine, as he has a staggering library of old-time Muscle Mags. at his house, or 2. May remember this routine. Either way, when I have a half-hour to spare, I can post this routine here if required.
Assistance work was quite minimal. After several sets of heavy Squats, Benches or Deadlifts, who could possibly be bothered with doing much more work.! Leg Curls & Calf Raises on Monday, whichever favourite Tricep exercises you prefer on Wednesday & Lat. Pulldowns/Bicep Curls on Friday. Then....HOME.! Quite frankly, if you are putting-in the required effort on these three days, with a routine similar to this, then you are going to LOVE Saturday & Sunday.! Personally, I'd had-enough of the gym by Friday, & looked-forward to relaxing on the weekend (there is a slight correction to the above routine which includes a Saturday Session, which we did in the mid-80's, however, this isn't a path you'd wanna follow UNLESS you have serious masochistic tendencies...).
Equipment wasn't utilised 'til close-to competition (please refer to my previous comments re : Ed Coan's routine in the Ironsport Magazine/Markos etc.). I think Ed Coan has published several invaluable training dvd's/books etc., which I would urge ANY prospective powerlifter/strength athlete to digest. His (Ed Coan's) comments regarding equipment make ABSOLUTE sense & should be followed (where possible..).
Hope this provides a brief summation of the 'old-time' lifting we all once did ; that which Markos & P.T.C people are currently doing is pretty-much the same now as it was then. Good Lifting.!
How many days, sets, reps, equipment used, assistance work etc
Thankyou Oliver. Looking through the general conversation in this forum, I see Markos has previously & accurately covered all our early (late 80's to mid-90's..) training at the old Tarzan & Janes' Gym in Seaford, Victoria. Briefly, three days/week, Squats (& associated leg-work) on Mondays, Bench (& associated pressing/tricep/upper-body) work on Wednesday & Deadlifts (Lats., Biceps et.al.) on Friday. The weekend was OFF-LIMITS.! There's a couple of slightly different variations to this schedule which can be used, however, the vast majority of lifters ALL profited from this routine.
In the 1980's, it was 5 sets of 5 reps (prior to competition), however, later we adopted Ed Coan's Training Routine gleaned from an old 'Ironsport' Magazine (which Markos showed me in the late 80's.). If Markos reads this thread, he : 1. May still have this magazine, as he has a staggering library of old-time Muscle Mags. at his house, or 2. May remember this routine. Either way, when I have a half-hour to spare, I can post this routine here if required.
Assistance work was quite minimal. After several sets of heavy Squats, Benches or Deadlifts, who could possibly be bothered with doing much more work.! Leg Curls & Calf Raises on Monday, whichever favourite Tricep exercises you prefer on Wednesday & Lat. Pulldowns/Bicep Curls on Friday. Then....HOME.! Quite frankly, if you are putting-in the required effort on these three days, with a routine similar to this, then you are going to LOVE Saturday & Sunday.! Personally, I'd had-enough of the gym by Friday, & looked-forward to relaxing on the weekend (there is a slight correction to the above routine which includes a Saturday Session, which we did in the mid-80's, however, this isn't a path you'd wanna follow UNLESS you have serious masochistic tendencies...).
Equipment wasn't utilised 'til close-to competition (please refer to my previous comments re : Ed Coan's routine in the Ironsport Magazine/Markos etc.). I think Ed Coan has published several invaluable training dvd's/books etc., which I would urge ANY prospective powerlifter/strength athlete to digest. His (Ed Coan's) comments regarding equipment make ABSOLUTE sense & should be followed (where possible..).
Hope this provides a brief summation of the 'old-time' lifting we all once did ; that which Markos & P.T.C people are currently doing is pretty-much the same now as it was then. Good Lifting.!
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Iron Alliance
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Thank you for sharing this with us Adam, you're an inspiration. It puts into perspective the issue of intensity. If you really put in work on your main lifts, you really shouldn't have enough energy to do a whole stack of fluff excersises, something I've been guilty of a few times. Stick the big compounds, make them heavy and do a few choice accessory excersises then get out and go recover.
Speaking of which, did you employ any recovery techniques at all apart fom eating a small mountain of food? I suspect getting under the kind of weight you where handling would leave you pretty beat.
Glad you like the sig.
Cheers,
-Mitch.
Speaking of which, did you employ any recovery techniques at all apart fom eating a small mountain of food? I suspect getting under the kind of weight you where handling would leave you pretty beat.
Glad you like the sig.
Cheers,
-Mitch.
jonnie_sfw
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Hi Adam...and welcome aboard...I'm humbled to be praised by a pioneer and great such as yourself..thankyou...I'm 32 and have been pulling since July 08
Like you have indicated, I also feel that the key to success is in staying injury free and being patient. I need to learn a little more of the latter as it has cost me kg's on my total several times but this wont happen again!