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Wait! Let's talk about weight!!

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I'd like us to talk about (scale) weight for a while.

Why is it that Mikhail Petrov could clean & jerk (200.5kg @ 62.5kg weight class), while Yury Zakarevich did 250.5kg at 100kg?

Mikhail's c&j is 3x his bodyweight, while Yury's c&j is more like...2.5x

If a muscular guy @ 60kg was able to deadlit 3x his bodyweight, is a muscular guy @ 110kg able to deadlit 330kg?


With strength based sports, does size REALLY matter?
 
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SIZE does matter, but it is not a linear relationship of bodyweight vs weight lifted. The correlation depends on the lift, and there are other factors like the lifter's anthropometry. Although it's tempting to think about how much you can bench or deadlift in terms of bodyweight, this sort of approach will usually flatter the lighter lifter.

You can attempt to figure out some bodyweight vs weight lifted coefficients using statistics - there is plenty of lifting data out there to play with.

There have been a number of attempts to figure out coefficients to normalise lifters' results across different weight classes in both olympic weightlifting and powerlifting, eg Hoffman formula, Wilks coefficient, Glossbrenner formula, etc. There have been many arguments over the years of the pros and cons of each of these approaches, but you can get a general idea.
 
Pete, your not serious are you?

How much do you think bone helps in lifting weights? I remember reading a while ago that you add around 8kg per inch of lifters height. So a 6' lifter can weigh 32kg more than a 5'8" lifter with the same ammount of muscle, not functional weight is it.

All the OL who have jerked triple bodyweight are near enough dwarfs.

Adipose tissue may improve leverage, but its not entirely functional.

If the 2 lifters are the same height, weight and bodyfat %, and are both in elite competition, then the variance will be tiny, which is why so many comps are decided on bodyweight, or by a kilo or two.
 
WTF, what's the question?
Please elucidate.
It's sabotageing your goals if you try to make comparison.
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I watched Tom set the 110kg class raw record of 282.5kg.....no belt.

Nick is chasing this record

As far as triple bodyweight deadlifts go, Kelly pulled 255kg @ 79kg raw, well over triple

Max pulled 212.5kg @ 72kg raw at his first ever comp, he just missed triple, as did Blake at the same comp.

Chris pulled 273.5kg @ 93kg raw here at PTC, very close to triple at a relatively heavy bw
 
I guess one aspect for heavier people deadlifting 3x bw is that funny thing we call gravity. This issue can just as easily relate to 2x bw squats, 1.5 bw snatches ect
 
Strong is Strong Pete.

Max, Kelly and Nick can all squat double bw. Max is 75kg, Nick is 110kg, Kelly in between.

These are raw, there are equipped lifters who do over triple bw squats on this forum.
 
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