Don't you guys argue and blue before and after UFCs?
Just finished watching Machida v Bader. Thought Machida would catch him around round two. Nice short right hand by Machida, the same as what Tito caught Bader with, both times were due to Bader not adjusting upon distance closedown, albeit Bader rushed Machida with a one two (or a weird superman punch), as opposed to Tito rushing Bader the last time. Machida brilliantly slipped and blocked Bader’s stepping in one two (or weird superman punch) then drilled him. Wouldn’t fight Machida with a baseball bat lol, foot speed, hand speed, great defensive skills and accuracy! You can see why Machida gets next shot at the title ahead of Shogun. (Bader then tapped against Tito within seconds of Tito getting the guillotine choke). Are these signs Bader hasn’t fully made the transition from wrestler to MMA fighter yet. Fighters like Jon Fitch will sit defending a full on guillotine choke for half an hour without tapping. All easy for me to say sitting on my couch eating peanuts!
Seen bits and pieces of the Shogun v Vera. Vera looked more powerful. Might have been his undoing cardio wise. Fourth round Shogun locked on. Vera to get the pink slip (followed by Forrest and Hughes???).
I have not watched the fight yet due to IRL events. But just from personal experience defending against a rear naked choke and guillotines are one of the simplest things to do(Saying that the defensive action is simple actually stopping the choke is another story) and taught very very early in many martial arts also most trainers will pickup on it easily and its not like I get advice from UFC trainers, So I can only assume his trainers are a lot smarter.
As you said people can defend against them a long time. I have sat in one where they never got the choke but held me down so long and hard there thighs bruised my ribs.
On that note I doubt he just let it happen usually the opponent will pull a little move to get them off balance or just drop concentration so they can get under that chin.
Some things you can do to lift that chin are very annoying. All your concentration on keeping your chin down while there squeezing your ribs like a snake. Its tap, Take a breath and get choked or against someone like Tito option three would be let his legs break your ribs lol