[MartialArts] UFC Discussions

[KungFooGoo]

Hopefully judges dont score the takedowns high because frankie didnt doa thing with them....

 

[Figjam Brah]

Yeah, his boxing is good and impressive, but the shiity kicks and takedowns ruin it

 

[KungFooGoo]

Wow.... Looks like the sig strikes made the difference.

 

[Figjam Brah]

Fuck... really... guess the few kicks he landed did count (which is good).....


Edit: talking about Benson.

 

[Figjam Brah]

WEll.. Nate Diaz vs Benson, was always gonna be a better fight.
Frankie vs Aldo could be cool (but Aldo is Aldo)

 

[KungFooGoo]

ld like to see edgar vs aldo... just to see frankie get fucked up trying to pitter pat his way to a W as per usual.

 

[KungFooGoo]

Candyflip
Benson tko
Jake Shields
Guillard
Okami
Lawrence
3 Points

Rapey Vibe
Henderson via tko
Herman
Cerrone
Okami
Holloway
4 Points


Dave
Benson Henderson Tko
Jake Shields
Donald Cerrone
Yushin Okami
Max Holloway
5 Points

Neddysmith
Henderson - KO 3rd
Herman
Cerrone
Okami
Holloway
4 Points

Relevent
Henderson - Points
Sheilds
Guillard
Okami
Holloway
5 Points

Big jim
Frankie Edgar ~ decision
Jake Shields
Melvin Guillard
Yushin OkamII
Justin Lawrence
2 points

Figjam Brah
Hendo via TKO.
Jake Shields
Guillard
Yushin
Lawrence
3 Points

 

[KungFooGoo]

Upcoming Event - UFC 151 - Jones vs Henderson
Main event: Jon Jones vs Dan Henderson
Jake Ellenberger vs Jay Hieron
Dennis Siver vs Eddie Yagin
Thiago Tavares vs Dennis Hallman
John Lineker vs Yasuhiro Urushitani

 

[Figjam Brah]

ld like to see edgar vs aldo... just to see frankie get fucked up trying to pitter pat his way to a W as per usual.

lol yeah, Aldo vs Urijah all over again. Gonna be Frankie's legs getting destroyed for 5 rounds.... those pitter patter kicks piss me off, so put him up against Aldos kicks. Pretty sure Aldo will destroy anyone though...

 

[KungFooGoo]

Upcoming Event - UFC 151 - Jones vs Henderson
Main event: Jon Jones vs Dan Henderson
Jake Ellenberger vs Jay Hieron
Dennis Siver vs Eddie Yagin
Thiago Tavares vs Dennis Hallman
Danny Castillo vs Michael Johnson...

Apologies, l had the wrong fight in the main card...

 

[thePoo2012]

If I recall, and I do, CHAEL SONNEN CHALLENGED ANDERSEN SILVA THAT THE LOSER OF THEIR TITLE FIGHT (IF HE/CHAEL GOT ONE) WOULD LEAVE THE UFC. YOU LOST CHAEL, PISS OFF BACK TO STRIKEFORCE FOR A WHILE LIKE YOU AGREED YOU WOULD DO.

Now Chael Sonnen is calling out Jon Jones with similair personal attacks. To quote Jon Jones
"Dude, you’re not worth my time,” said Jones. “Earn a title shot instead of trying to talk your way into one and I’ll be glad to hurt you.”

What is Dana/UFC thinking allowing Sonnen this bottom of the barrel scraping.

 

[Neddysmith]

If I recall, and I do, CHAEL SONNEN CHALLENGED ANDERSEN SILVA THAT THE LOSER OF THEIR TITLE FIGHT (IF HE/CHAEL GOT ONE) WOULD LEAVE THE UFC. YOU LOST CHAEL, PISS OFF BACK TO STRIKEFORCE FOR A WHILE LIKE YOU AGREED YOU WOULD DO.

Now Chael Sonnen is calling out Jon Jones with similair personal attacks. To quote Jon Jones
"Dude, you’re not worth my time,” said Jones. “Earn a title shot instead of trying to talk your way into one and I’ll be glad to hurt you.”

What is Dana/UFC thinking allowing Sonnen this bottom of the barrel scraping.

Yeah Sonnen did say that he would leave the UFC forever if he lost, but really, Sonnen is a great talker and showman and he has the skills to back it up, unfortunately a simple mistake cost him dearly in the rematch with Silva, for the first round of the rematch Sonnen took down Silva and resumed the beating he was dishing out in the first match.

Sonnen has really been the only one to push Silva, but i dont know about Sonnen v Jones, would be interesting to see how Sonnen would handle moving up a weight class, can't recall if he has fought before at that weight?

 

[thePoo2012]

Cheers Neddy. I thinks Anderson may have really been injured in that first fight but Sonnen did put an arse wippin on Silva. This Jones v Hendo fight will tell alot of tales about a Jones v Sonnen bout. Won't stop Sonnen seeking the big bucks by talking trash though.

Are you the real Neddy Smith? Hows long bay?

 

[KungFooGoo]

Sonnen is fighting Forrest now. He's moving up to LHW. Should be the new years card.

 

[thePoo2012]

Sonnen is fighting Forrest now. He's moving up to LHW. Should be the new years card.

Sonnen would be a "blown up" LHW wouldn't you think. This would make it a bit harder for him, the same problem Hendo faces at LHW.

 

[Neddysmith]

Sonnen is fighting Forrest now. He's moving up to LHW. Should be the new years card.

This i think will actually be an interesting fight, and usually i would think Sonnen would dominate but considering it is a step up in weight could change things a little.

@Stu - yeah not bad, being treating reasonably well and get web access occassionally

 

[KungFooGoo]

UFC 151 has been called off for now. Article linked:

Cancelling UFC 151 Was Right Call By Dana White - Bloody Elbow

 

[Neddysmith]

Maybe i am missing something but for some reason it seems the UFC is on the decline....

For me i dont understand why they have some fight cards that appear so poor, i mean they have 8 weight divisions, so that mean IF they hold a UFC PPV event once a month each weight class can have at least 1 title fight per year with some 2, then you have all the other fights on the main card and reserve the undercards and Fuel TV events for the lesser fights.

If seems to me they have spread their wings too wide and are now trying to make the fuel events big earning events where they should be used for lesser known fighters to climb the ladder and become contenders and save the PPV events for the bigger names. This way IF there are injuries or a fighter pulls out from a card for whatever reason you have enough depth to be able to cover them and still have a big earning and decent fight card.

discuss?

 

[KungFooGoo]

Maybe i am missing something but for some reason it seems the UFC is on the decline....

For me i dont understand why they have some fight cards that appear so poor, i mean they have 8 weight divisions, so that mean IF they hold a UFC PPV event once a month each weight class can have at least 1 title fight per year with some 2, then you have all the other fights on the main card and reserve the undercards and Fuel TV events for the lesser fights.

If seems to me they have spread their wings too wide and are now trying to make the fuel events big earning events where they should be used for lesser known fighters to climb the ladder and become contenders and save the PPV events for the bigger names. This way IF there are injuries or a fighter pulls out from a card for whatever reason you have enough depth to be able to cover them and still have a big earning and decent fight card.

discuss?

l think if there were no injuries then it wouldn't really seem that way. They have been putting together some solid cards except for the fuel cards (ill get to that in a second) but with so many event put on in a short amount of time they generally only have 1-3 "big fights" with names with some drawing power so when 1 of the 6 top guys gets injured the whole card seems to fall to shit.

The fuel cards (not the FX cards) suck dick now because 1. they get hardly any viewers and the fighters get little exposure. l mean ask any casual fan who Chris Weidman is and they wont have a fucking clue even though he's more then likely the #1 contender and he fought on the fuel card. Also the fuel contract to televise the live fights isnt getting renewed so Dana being Dana is more then likely chucking on his lower paying guys / lower level guys just to give them some experience at the 'big time' without having to give them a massive chunk of PPV/gate sales.

....im sure l could ramble more but l dont really have a set direction to go in so ill just leave it there otherwise itll just be more paragraphs of sporadic information...

 

[candyflip]

Maybe i am missing something but for some reason it seems the UFC is on the decline....

I don't think you're 'missing anything', but I don't agree with you. I agree wholeheartedly with Steve Barry, who writes for MMAConvert.com, when he said overnight:

"...as lame as it is that Jon Jones turned down a fight with a middleweight, it's really the UFC's fault for having to cancel UFC 151, not Jones or Jackson. They've simply spread the talent too thin across too many shows. UFC 151 was super weak under the main event. They've lost main events before at the last minute but at least had some promotable fights to carry on with. Would have been the same here if they weren't already spread so thin..."

Injuries are part of this sport. They *will* happen. The only thing the UFC needs to do is build their second tier card into a more manageable operation, for every PPV without exception.