So can you the address the theory that the res100 could be a possible cause for the elevated liver values.
The guy is sick, eating shit and not training your being ridiculous. this blood test doesn't prove positive or negative it is flawed just as you have said.
Again res100 was added and his liver values went up. How do you know for certian it wasn't a contributing factor.
to be fair though guys, all variables have to be equal for it to give us any indication of the true impact res100 has had on Ghosty's system?
Bad diet, lack of sleep, too much sex, not enough sex, training, no training - they all effect test levels - and estrogen levels too for that matter, hormone function in general.
Whilst I'm disappointed with the outcome, because I was really keen to see the results today - I do understand why the final blood test result is null and void, if the test subject's entire lifestyle changed from the first blood test? It simply is not a fair or conclusive comparison of data?
That being said, O.N. can I ask something?
Was Ghosty instructed to abstain from sex before his final blood test? Was he told intitially that his diet and training had to remain the same as it was before his first set of bloods? Was he instructed to not have soft drink/alcohol etc?
Also, whilst abstaining from orgasm doesn't expedentially increase testosterone levels in the long term, trials have certainly been conducted where testosterone levels spike from day 2 through to day 7 of abstinence and then decline rapidly again, as the body re-absorbs the unreleased sperm back into the system. So my other question would be, given that we know, testosterone levels do spike, to some degree, when men abstain from having sex or ejaculating for short periods - would this not unfairly effect Ghosty's final blood test and skew the data for res100 favourably too?
Anyway, bummer about the results, it would still be good to see Ghosty's blood test if he's willing to post it. If not, I guess we wait another 30 days or so.....
to be fair though guys, all variables have to be equal for it to give us any indication of the true impact res100 has had on Ghosty's system?
Bad diet, lack of sleep, too much sex, not enough sex, training, no training - they all effect test levels - and estrogen levels too for that matter, hormone function in general.
Whilst I'm disappointed with the outcome, because I was really keen to see the results today - I do understand why the final blood test result is null and void, if the test subject's entire lifestyle changed from the first blood test? It simply is not a fair or conclusive comparison of data?
That being said, O.N. can I ask something?
Was Ghosty instructed to abstain from sex before his final blood test? Was he told intitially that his diet and training had to remain the same as it was before his first set of bloods? Was he instructed to not have soft drink/alcohol etc?
Also, whilst abstaining from orgasm doesn't expedentially increase testosterone levels in the long term, trials have certainly been conducted where testosterone levels spike from day 2 through to day 7 of abstinence and then decline rapidly again, as the body re-absorbs the unreleased sperm back into the system. So my other question would be, given that we know, testosterone levels do spike, to some degree, when men abstain from having sex or ejaculating for short periods - would this not unfairly effect Ghosty's final blood test and skew the data for res100 favourably too?
Anyway, bummer about the results, it would still be good to see Ghosty's blood test if he's willing to post it. If not, I guess we wait another 30 days or so.....
Thank you for the post very sensible and level headed thanks.
Answers to your questions:
Was Ghosty instructed to abstain from sex before his final blood test?
Ghostrun has not been instructed, but he and i have now concluded that to make the next trial fair he should go abut his normal sexual business up until 3 days before both his before and after blood tests this will make both blood tests fair so he can have sex 3 days before each test, nothing was said to him about abstaining during this flawed test.
Was he told intitially that his diet and training had to remain the same as it was before his first set of bloods? Was he instructed to not have soft drink/alcohol etc?
no but it should have been as you have stated not training and poor diet totally effect the result an given the fact the actual final bloods were done whilst he was still sick. imo and i think it is fairly clear the blood test results show he is sick. Which is 100% the case as he has stated.
But on the same token how do we know it wasn't the flu causing increased liver function, and how do we know my test levels might have been even lower if it wasn't for Res100 keeping them up?
It's just a pity I happened to get sick during this trial!
The new test should clear everything up and then factual conclusions can be drawn
Your missing the point. We don't know that's the point.
Like you said it could be the flu but who here is too say it wasn't the res100. We don't know but it is a possibility. That's my point. It would be the same if the test values went up. How do we know it was the res100? We don't. Just like we don't know if it caused the liver values this time around.
Has there been any studies done on ye safety of res100?
A 1 year trial has been completed yes.Has there been any studies done on ye safety of res100?
A 2nd/3rd trial (and across more users) under tighter variable control would help pinpoint this though. More testing will help identify what exactly the results and effects are (positive and negative).Your missing the point. We don't know that's the point.
Like you said it could be the flu but who here is too say it wasn't the res100, or a combination of both or even something else. We don't know but it is a possibility. That's my point. It would be the same if the test values went up. How do we know it was the res100? We don't. Just like we don't know if it caused the liver values this time around.
yep agree. Thanks for the response.
As long as he abstains from sex or ejaculation for his 'before' and 'after' bloods next time, I think it'll be as close as you're going to get to a conclusive trial result - all other elements being equal as well lol
Disappointing, but understandable. Let's hope his liver function improves also as he gets better! lol
A 2nd/3rd trial (and across more users) under tighter variable control would help pinpoint this though. More testing will help identify what exactly the results and effects are (positive and negative).
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