Supplements and steroids vs. time!

[Sticky]

Oh and re: cycle, the legal side of things does not bother me one bit.
Like you said, the judge would have more things to worry about then a bloke with low test that's doing a test E and deca cycle.

 

[Gauche]

I'm happy to still do other gear. I mean one of the only positives of having these hormone levels is I can't screw them up... Right? Also the testogel takes you past "normal" hormone levels doesn't it sticky?

 

[Sticky]

It depends on the person. I have very little fat, less aromiatization. I get more out of the gel then noobs, and possibly yourself. When I tested above range, that was 1.5 hours after application so of course it will be higher. My next bloods will be at 24 hours after application so I can get and average.

That said though, this is prescription testosterone, which I believe is not what Fadi had in mind with the creation on this thread. I only chipped in as my name was mentioned and I don't want to be associated with substance abuce.

 

[Gauche]

Lol I don't think Dave was implying that at all.

 

[Prane]

Benefits of drinking and smoking.... You look cool?

maybe in 1990s

 

[Fadi]

I have legitimate/lawful steroids sitting at home collecting dust. Would throw them away as I have done on a previous occasion as they expire.

If you feel fine and all is working fine, then only put into your body what your body needs; good real food and clean water. Enjoy the sun for 15 minutes each day and surround yourself with people who love you, appreciate you, and care about your whole being...spirituality included as part of the whole being.


Fadi.

 

[Gauche]

Spot on Fadi! I'm sorry we have polluted your thread mate but I hate it how the steroid subject is so taboo. Whenever a chance to talk about it comes up it explodes.

 

[Fadi]

Spot on Fadi! I'm sorry we have polluted your thread mate but I hate it how the steroid subject is so taboo. Whenever a chance to talk about it comes up it explodes.

Not a problem Gauche, not a problem brother.

And yes this subject is unfortunately a taboo. It is made so by two very different types of people:

1. The arrogant and aggressive muscle person who thinks he is God's gift to humanity.

2. The uneducated public who thinks not twice in attributing and equating cheating with the use of PED.

My opinion on the subject is that both of these groups of people are at fault and neither is helping with their attitude on this issue. On the contrary, I see a vicious circle revolving round and round being fuelled by both sides. Fuelled not by petrol being poured on an already raging fire no; fuelled rather by the most powerful and most destructive weapon of them all: IGNORANCE!


Fadi.

 

[Gauche]

Here here!

Do you think there will ever be a day when the Australian government changes it's mind towards some substances like dhea?

 

[Christian]

And this is the point of Fadi's article. Have patience and work hard. As you said Drain a lot of people don't think that way they just say 'hey give me a drug to fix this problem'.

And I don't blame them, society has created an image of a drug can fix everything society?

Eat shit? Take xenical
Can't sleep? Take Valium
Can't wake up? Have a coffee
Can't get an erection? Pop a blue one.
Pain? Panadol panadol panadol.. Rapid, absorb, kids, ultra super mega strength, liquid, capsules, tablets.. Fuck how many times can you sell the same paracetamol?

 

[Christian]

Here here!

Do you think there will ever be a day when the Australian government changes it's mind towards some substances like dhea?

Never.. They are a bunch of iggnorant clowns.

Who dictate to others matters that they know nothing about...

It isn't about safety. It isn't about health, it's about sports and sucking off America. Alcohol and cigarettes fuck even sugar have killed millions of people... How many people has testosterone killed?

I agree with banning mind altering substances such as drugs. But to put heroin and testosterone in the same category is beyond a joke..

 

[Fadi]

Here here!

Do you think there will ever be a day when the Australian government changes it's mind towards some substances like dhea?

Yes it's possible Gauche. I say that based on the stance the IOC used to uphold regarding caffeine until they lifted its ban from use not long ago. Also, we need more doctors who really care about the athletes' health to speak out and educate the government that what they (the greedy government) allows to be consumed by the general public on a daily basis is far more harmful than anything an athlete could ever dream of taking (with the exception of diuretics).

I called the government greedy because they are. They know damn well what nicotine and alcohol do, but since there's big tax dollars to be made out of these two evils, they allow it under the disguised name of freedom.

Last time I checked, it was against the law to commit suicide or help someone commit suicide. The only difference between this suicide and the other is the time factor as well as the revenues from tax!

I know someone would come up now and say no Fadi; the factor of cheating is not to be found in the consumption of alcohol etc. To that my reply is: who are you kidding? We all know of people who become someone totally different after a few drinks. Isn’t it funny how we’re always told to be ourselves and we’ll be right. I’ll stop here because I can feel that I’m not in the mood of being politically correct right now…


Fadi.

 

[Sticky]

Lol, I love the way you write Fadi.
You always make me laugh, even if you don't mean to .

 

[Gauche]

I would vote for noobs and Fadi and it would be the first time I really felt my vote could mean something.

 

[JimmyBT]

I always like to put things in perspective, but that has its own ramifications, as some with vested interests would simply hate me for it, while others would look beyond the shallowness and would quickly realise that I mean well. I mean today it's all about hyping in such a way as to make your wallet willingly open up and give its contents away. Yes, even hyping has become an art!

Everyone's after your money; I'm after some serious effort that would not only save you money in the long run, but will also make whatever supplement you decide to take in the future that much more potent. Who’s the master here? Where once we were the masters now we are the salves; where once we were in control, now we allow others to control us. As you read further, you will realise that I’m not some anti-supplement zealous, but one who has decided to step outside of your circle and look in at the big picture. Perchance I may be able to see in full focus what may have become blurred to you and a dangerous mirage to others.

Okay now brother, give me your hand and come up here where I’m standing, I’d like you to see things from my point of view…

Look at the most anabolic hormone of them all, Insulin. This powerhouse of a hormone works in two totally different ways depending on the state your muscles are in. Trained muscles would be so sensitive and in such a highly receptive state as to really make this hormone shine in helping you build some serious muscles. Be a couch potato and this same hormone would take the gold medal in turning you into a sumo wrestler in no time flat!

Steroids work in the same way as supplements in the context of a trained body vs. one that is not so well trained. That is why I’m always scratching my head when I hear of a young person wanting to “try” or “give steroid a go” as if they were some lollies he’s putting into his system. It doesn’t take an Albert Einstein to know how to bake a cake, but it does take common sense to know that one can not speed its baking by raising the oven’s temperature!

PS: The icing on the cake is great, but first thing's first...


Fadi.

thats pretty general mate. There are sooo many different types of steroids. take Anavar for example, now how is that going to F*CK someone up? Even at a young age 20-22 at relatively decent dosages it aint that bad.

 

[leachy]

At 22 you don't need juice. Period.

 

[Fadi]

thats pretty general mate. There are sooo many different types of steroids. take Anavar for example, now how is that going to F*CK someone up? Even at a young age 20-22 at relatively decent dosages it aint that bad.

Granted that I'm generalising Jimmy, now please see if you can answer this question for me: which is more dangerous, Anavar or Panadol?

I thought I’d keep it very simple here…


Fadi.

 

[Christian]

Granted that I'm generalising Jimmy, now please see if you can answer this question for me: which is more dangerous, Anavar or Panadol?

I thought I’d keep it very simple here…


Fadi.

Why have Anavar when you can have jack3d?

 

[Daniel.308]

Even though I don't know anything about anvar...

My vote goes to panadol

I have heard some bad stuff about it, though people take them like lollies...

Example - binge drink (elevates liver enzymes) = taking a panadol to relieve headaches due to the hang over from drinking in the morning = (elevates liver enzymes)

Screwed liver anyone?

I'm sure noobs and fadi can correct whatever I said wrong but that's what I've interpreted from reading about it...

 

[Jim_Junkie]

At 22 you don't need juice. Period.

Can someone fill me in on steroids and how they affect the body? I was recently mirin' zyzz's physique, then realised he's only 21.