So chickens that live like chickens were meant to be living are deficient because they are not eating man made pellet food??
It absolutely blows my mind how you brain works
3,000kcal is 4 double quarter pounders with cheese at McDonalds
Or 1.5kg of wings
I know which goes down easier.
I can list ample medical studies that show diets higher in cholesterol and saturated fats result in people with more ideal body composition. I can't say the same about carbohydrates.
I'm not saying they are bad, but why would you eat them if you could eat steak? What benefit do they have over steak or eggs? Eggs are highest in leucine and glutamine peptides which are proven to be the main aminos used in protein synthesis. An egg also has 4% of your daily b6, 6% of your folate and 11% of your b12. These B vitamins also have been proven to be the best for strength training which is why athletes take injectable B complex. 1.5g of saturated fat per egg, 211mg of cholesterol.
Carbohydrates are simply calories. That is all they do- they increase your calories. They are not NEEDED by the body in any way, shape or form. Glycogen and ATP can be synthesized just fine without it. If you can eat lots of carbs simply to get your calories up then that is fine. But why not increase calories by pushing the above nutrients even higher, the one's that are proven to increase strength and provide a more favourable body composition.
I'm not going to debate it any longer, I have listed every single point. I can link the medical studies for you to read if you so desire but it will take me until the weekend to collate it all as my life ATM is work, sleep and training
"Some antibiotics are used therapeutically if a chicken has some sort of disease that can't be cured by normal methods. That would only be used under veterinary prescription and that's pretty rare these days. But antibiotics are used in products called digestion enhancers but if you don't like that word, a lot of people don't, they call them growth promotants and what these antibiotics do is adjust the gut in the chicken so it gets rid of the unwanted bacteria, so the bacteria that aid the digestion of the chicken's food can proliferate. This is exactly the reason that they are used, so you get the effect of growth promotion," he said.
An investigation into the battle over antibiotics fed to farm animals.
ANDREW FOWLER: For years, farmers have been feeding antibiotics to their animals to make them fatter faster.
DR JEFF FAIRBROTHER, AUSTRALIAN CHICKEN MEAT FEDERATION: The only reason we use this product is because we have a huge economic advantage.
hormones hardly used (or not at all?) in chickens.... cows on the other hand....
I thought chickens were fed antibiotics, to kill some of the bacteria in gut, and leave the bacteria that helps em convert more food to chook..
Landline - 5/05/2002: Challenging food safety myths . Australian Broadcasting Corp
Four Corners - 01/10/2001: The Last Silver Bullets
I wonder if there are similar antibiotics for people?
take a pill and more efficiently convert food to muscle?
Reading this thread hearing everyone mentioning foods like pizza, schnitzels, ice cream, burgers etc has got me really looking forward to getting back to bulking
And you are not enjoying these things while cutting why?
Tim.
And you are not enjoying these things while cutting why?
Tim.
4 double quarters. I hope you have some chips with that and what you having for dessert then. Seriously Maccas burgers are tiny, smash that down in a couple minutes.
Mate your talking about 1 meal without knowing the whole diet. Why not eat steak. Well fuck what if I'm having steak for tea and eggs for lunch. Your putting some foods on a pedestal. So what I should never eat another food ever again because every time I should just have a steak instead.
Now we are on the same page
No reason to eat them than to satisfy an emotional need
That's all you're doing- you're eating them because you like them for temporary enjoyment.
I don't have an emotional connection to food- so I just eat what I need to eat.
And it fucking WORKS, to the point where I am losing fat, gaining muscle and getting stronger and even yourself suggested that I was taking steroids
Carbohydrates fill me up. They fill lots of people up. If the dude is still reading this- you now have lots of ideas. Experiment, you'll know in 4 weeks if what you're doing is working or not. The take away point from everyone are:
Eat calorie dense foods- ice cream, fattier cuts of meat, italian food (although I don't think it's sensible to eat a load of fat then spike your insulin- but lasagne is tasty as fuck) and so on
Experiment with carbohydrate timing. Try eating most of your carbs in the morning, noon or post training.
Cook in oils more suited to strength training. Lard, butter, olive oil. Ditch the processed oils like canola, vegetable oils and so on. They don't taste as good, turn into trans fats easily and are not the optimal fats
Experiment with meal timing. Try eating one big meal, 2 or 3 meals, many meals and even snacking during the day. Good snack foods? Ground jerky mixed 50/50 in lard is killer and doesn't need to be refrigerated.
Lol mate I don't know what you are on about.
If emotional attachment to food is eating foods I enjoy, well I'm guilty. I like food, so what. You don't have an emotional connection? Fuck. Lol. If you didn't mention wings every 5 words I might believe you.
Oils suited to strength training lol ok.
I didn't suggest you were talking roids. It was clearly a joke. Get over yourself. Mate, you were the same weight for like 18 months with everyone telling you to eat. Now you are finally putting the calories down and no shit you gain muscle and strength, like everyone said.
You are coming up with all these fancy mostly ridiculous theories to why your diet is working when really all that's happening is you are finally eating enough calories.
I'm eating less calories than I was before
I am guessing then he would not rally be cutting.
Your choice of foods looks like what one would eat if cutting.
Sure eat some veggies and lean meats. If you struggle to eat a shitload of them however, then you really need to get stuck into double cheeseburgers, fried chicken, schnitzels, meatlovers pizza... all the good stuff.
Brown bead is filling, piss that shit off and eat white, preferably in the form of burger buns. Your dinner is missing icecream in a big way.
Lol. Last time I dropped weight, I still ate all of these things every couple of days.
First meal or two would the staples, then whatever I wanted to fill out the rest.
Tim.
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