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Steroids and strength gain

oldcorollas said:
geez, if you don't know, just say so, don't pretend you know :D (and then google...)

endurance is a given, as is strength :p

skill? balance? how can they be affected by steroids?
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Yeah it's a great answer for someone who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about
 
oldcorollas said:
geez, if you don't know, just say so, don't pretend you know :D (and then google...)

endurance is a given, as is strength :p

skill? balance? how can they be affected by steroids?
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Prepare for an ironman while adding 50kg to your total
Let me know how that goes for you
 
Recently, USADA has suspended a number of older athletes, including 80 year old weightlifting world record holder who had a level of testosterone of 1,121 nanograms per deciliter — more than twice what it should have been
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/16/sp...s-a-story.html

Athletes who want to use TRT are required by USADA to apply for a therapeutic use exemption (TUE) that allows them to use testosterone in- and out-of-competition. Ramos did not apply for a TUE.

http://www.steroid.com/blog/Eighty-Y...nt-Therapy.php
 
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Genics said:
While i agree those would be the gains from that cycle i doubt its true, a year of halo and oxy? You would be so fuckin ill
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He wasn't a picture of health and I don't know where he found the dough. The anapolon cost up to $180 per bottle of 100 for those who weren't rorting pbs, plus about $45 for the halo and whatever he was paying for the packs of sustanon ampoules. A few guys joined the Friendlies Chemist frequent buyers club and saved through bulk buying.

There were proper bodybuilders who were using even more gear than that (plus somatotropin), but with a profasi/pregnyl cycle in between to keep their nuts slightly larger than sultanas.
 
Running orals at those doses for that time frame is beyond retarded
I'm actually impressed he lasted that long
 
Case 2.
Mid-20's track and field athlete turned gym junkie
5'10" and maybe 85kg
Bench - 130kg
Squat - 170kg
Power Clean - I think it was about 110kg

I'm not condoning this, I completely disapprove of PED and you really would need to have a screw loose to be shooting vet gear into your leg.

The course went for four or five months, ramping up over two weeks and tapering off over the final three weeks. At peak, the supplementation program looked a little like this:

Stanazolol 1.5mL im every second day with nice thick 21g
Halo 2 per day
Proviron 1 per day

In the final three weeks he tapered the dose off and had 3 shots of pregnyl per week. The strength peaked during the HCG therapy.

He weighed in at maybe 93 plus or minus a couple
Bench - a couple of reps on 160kg
Squat- five plates with wraps (he had never used wraps before this, so not exactly comparing apples with apples)
Power Clean - it ended up at 120kg
Deadlift - he had never deadlifted before the cycle - 250kg

Within 6 months:
He could not bench 140kg
He got buried under a 200kg squat
The power clean was unchanged, back to about 110kg
Deadlift was a struggle on 5 plates
Bodyweight was under 90kg, probably about 86-88kg

The training was probably a bit more intense during the cycle and as the LFT's came back down and he didn't feel the special halo drive, he seemed to lack the motivation to push through.

Lots of guys just seem to revert to mediocre training effort after a cycle. I guess it's like going from owning a V8 to driving a Diahatsu.

Probably less disappointment and longer term gains will be had by staying clean and just persevering for years.
 
Case 3 and onwards.

The deca boys.

I need some help here, maybe Sandy would remember what the bloat club of the 90's were doing.

These were the guys who had never trained before and were just lazy shits wearing string singlets who pumped up on Friday nights before hitting northbridge.

Bwt before cycle - probably 90-100kg
Bwt at peak of cycle - 100 to 110kg of water
Bench press before - 90kg with two bloated mates helping out
Bench press at peak - 90kg with one bloated mate helping out
Bench press 6mthe after cycle - 90kg with two bitch titty mates helping out
 
0ni said:
you know a lot of retards vonfram
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some of them were very special and it's quite jarring to see what happens to young insecure men who take the androgen roller coaster ride

- just ask the psychiatric registrar at RPH and the women they beat up.
 
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