You would have a much better chance of getting to your genetic potential if you started following that training at 14 and gave it a solid 10+ years.
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splitting workout into two parts (same day)
- Thread starter NightFallTech
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You would have a much better chance of getting to your genetic potential if you started following that training at 14 and gave it a solid 10+ years.
Darkoz
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I was referring to you saying that they were Olympic champions because of their training routine, therefore if we did the same training we could be the same.
The Hamburgler
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The high frequency high volume approach to Weightlifting has been the only approach that has proven to consistently work
Find me a guy who become a World/Olympic champ training only up to 4 times a week and I may consider otherwise
This doesn't mean the training style will suit everyone or that it's a realistic method for most of us
But to get to the top of the tree in Weightlifting history would suggest it is the only way
If you want to get to your potential in lifting weights you are going to have to accept some risk.
The Hamburgler
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Andy - who is going to be better at something : the guy performing whatever exercise it is 30 times a week or 100?
Kobe Bryant takes (or at least claims to) 1000(?) shots every day - are you going to tell him he's doing to much 'throwing'?
Kobe Bryant takes (or at least claims to) 1000(?) shots every day - are you going to tell him he's doing to much 'throwing'?
Goosey
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Some risk.
The closer you try and get to your strength potential the greater the risk, there is really no way around it.
Nobody could really believe that there is some way of training to a 200kg + clean and jerk that is risk free.
Goosey
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If the "something" is a maximum clean and jerk the difference is dependent on the individual and how often he spends in the gym doing strength work extracting the raw material to improve his chances of reducing injury.
Well, you would tell Kobe Bryant to do more, lets pull a figure 1540 a day to improve his skill even more?
The Hamburgler
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No, I'd tell him if it's working to keep doing it
Goosey
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Didn't say risk free.
But a good coach will plan, should plan to keep the risk at a minimum while producing results required.
The Hamburgler
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If it ain't broke don't fix it
Nothing is risk free. I agree keeping risk to a minimum but as you push harder to get to upper levels of your potential you are going to have to accept greater levels of risk. It's part of the game. There is a trade off. Sure training with 50kgs 3 times a week will be very low
risk but your never going to the Olympics. Technique is very important in o lifting and takes many thousands of reps, each one has a risk but needs to be done if you want to get good. To get to the top you need to push the boundarys.
Reading some stuff about top powerlifters. They list off a shopping list of injures they have sustained, I am sure most top O lifters are the same. It's not what you want but it's probably going to happen when pushing yourself to the limit.
Goosey
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Ok I just realized this is posted in the "powerlifting" section so I now realize why hamburguler used "westside" as an example.
But as the op stated that he wanted to split his *workout* in two, he should indeed try it, but I'm really not sure what he is exercising for and at what stage he is at in terms of strength.
But as the op stated that he wanted to split his *workout* in two, he should indeed try it, but I'm really not sure what he is exercising for and at what stage he is at in terms of strength.
NightFallTech
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Exercising for strength and hypertrophy...
Want to also improve fitness and not add too much fat while gaining muscle
Squat is rubbish at 75kg x 5 (adductors weak) (started real squats a few weeks back)
Deadlifts lifted 120kg 3x5 so far, did 140 a while back, felt my form was bad, so dropped back to 5kg progression), only ever done about 60 sets with deadlifts..
Bench 95kg 3x5 (and 1x7)
Overhead press 52.5kg 3x5
Db bicep curls 30kg 3x5
So nothing impressive given I'm 110kg @ 6'1"
Circumstances currently mean my access to a power rack and barbell is a short period at lunchtime, will soon however have access to dumbbells and bench and exercise bike and kettlebells at home. So volume same as 1 proper workout, but split into 2 sessions
NightFallTech
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I find waiting for the racks, carting the weight plates around etc take a decent chunk of time, and i only get 30 minutes of actual workout time once warmup and shower and 1km each way to work are taken into consideration...
I have plenty of time available in the evenings at home, but no space for a rack at present.
I fit in maybe 18 sets including warmup sets in my 30-40 minutes at present, I'll try shrinking the rest periods and see what i can fit in.
If i started going 5 days a week in a row, would i still want to keep increasing my weights by 5kg per session for squats/deadlifts and 2.5 for bench & press?