Neddysmith
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geez woody I hope you are more knowledgeable on other topics you comment on in this forum because you failed badly here.
Do you know the difference between clinical and sub clinical illness.
Do you know anything about this issue.
Do you know anything about treating cows.
Didn't think so. You are just rambling on to defer from the fact that you don't know anything about this.
Give us some proof that this is a regular occurrence. I have never once in my life heard anything like that done. But you heard it from a friend of a friend of a friend. Great stuff buddy.
If farmers don't want to be farmer, sell up, their land is probably worth a shit load. What is spitting into the milk going to do?
Like I said before but you wouldn't know. You couldn't spit into the milk if you wanted to on most milk vats. How many milk vats have you seen. Less than 1 is a safe bet.
Has it happened ever, probably. Just like food you eat at a resultant has probably been spat on but is it common. Not a chance in hell. Never once heard of it happening.
And they do get pulled from the herd when sick for treatment.
If antibiotics are used on them they have to be pulled from the herd because the milk cannot be sold.
I'll ask you again. How many sick cows you treated?
Tell us what's involved and how you treat them
Where is this knowledge coming from.
Raw milk is already banned.
It's done for a reason
Please only comment on issues you have a clue about.
Do you know the difference between clinical and sub clinical illness.
Do you know anything about this issue.
Do you know anything about treating cows.
Didn't think so. You are just rambling on to defer from the fact that you don't know anything about this.
Give us some proof that this is a regular occurrence. I have never once in my life heard anything like that done. But you heard it from a friend of a friend of a friend. Great stuff buddy.
If farmers don't want to be farmer, sell up, their land is probably worth a shit load. What is spitting into the milk going to do?
Like I said before but you wouldn't know. You couldn't spit into the milk if you wanted to on most milk vats. How many milk vats have you seen. Less than 1 is a safe bet.
Has it happened ever, probably. Just like food you eat at a resultant has probably been spat on but is it common. Not a chance in hell. Never once heard of it happening.
And they do get pulled from the herd when sick for treatment.
If antibiotics are used on them they have to be pulled from the herd because the milk cannot be sold.
I'll ask you again. How many sick cows you treated?
Tell us what's involved and how you treat them
Where is this knowledge coming from.
Raw milk is already banned.
It's done for a reason
Please only comment on issues you have a clue about.
steveP
Well-known member
I've got to say this is one of the most stupidest rebuttals I've read on this site in a while.
You're basing you entire argument on assuming all dairy farmers are disgruntled and hate their job. So instead of moving on and going into another career, they spit into the milk to get one over on society.
There was a point brought up in one of the newspapers but I had never thought of it because it's so common for us.
Raw milk that is sold doesn't undergo any of the strict quality testing that normal milk sold to factories does.
Our milk gets tested twice daily for a range of things including bacteria count, antibiotic residue, somatic cells, temperature. It's has to be under strict guidelines otherwise you are in trouble.
Raw milk doesn't have to undergo any of this.
But you'll have those that think heating milk for 15 seconds at 70C changes it into some kind of poison. Lol.
Fact is there is no evidence showing raw milk is better for you but there is plenty of proof showing pasteurized it is much safer.
Pretty simple choice.
Raw milk that is sold doesn't undergo any of the strict quality testing that normal milk sold to factories does.
Our milk gets tested twice daily for a range of things including bacteria count, antibiotic residue, somatic cells, temperature. It's has to be under strict guidelines otherwise you are in trouble.
Raw milk doesn't have to undergo any of this.
But you'll have those that think heating milk for 15 seconds at 70C changes it into some kind of poison. Lol.
Fact is there is no evidence showing raw milk is better for you but there is plenty of proof showing pasteurized it is much safer.
Pretty simple choice.
WoodyAllen
Well-known member
I'll just quietly leave this here…...
Ban unpasteurised toffee apples!!!!
"Five people have died and 21 more have been hospitalized after they were infected with listeria linked to prepackaged caramel apples, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Friday."
"Listeria can live in food processing plants and can grow even in cold temperatures, such as those in refrigerators.
It is killed by cooking and pasteurization. It is also found in soil and water and in animals such as poultry and cattle, and can be present in raw milk or food made from raw milk."
"Listeria outbreaks are rare but dangerous. In 2011, listeria in cantaloupes killed 33 people and sickened 147 in 28 states of America, according to the CDC.
In 2012, 22 people were infected and four died in an outbreak attributed to a brand of ricotta cheese imported from Italy, the agency said."
http://www.theage.com.au/world/five...-linked-to-toffee-apples-20141220-12bjku.html
Ban unpasteurised toffee apples!!!!
"Five people have died and 21 more have been hospitalized after they were infected with listeria linked to prepackaged caramel apples, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Friday."
"Listeria can live in food processing plants and can grow even in cold temperatures, such as those in refrigerators.
It is killed by cooking and pasteurization. It is also found in soil and water and in animals such as poultry and cattle, and can be present in raw milk or food made from raw milk."
"Listeria outbreaks are rare but dangerous. In 2011, listeria in cantaloupes killed 33 people and sickened 147 in 28 states of America, according to the CDC.
In 2012, 22 people were infected and four died in an outbreak attributed to a brand of ricotta cheese imported from Italy, the agency said."
http://www.theage.com.au/world/five...-linked-to-toffee-apples-20141220-12bjku.html
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Do I drink it, yes but nowadays if I do it's only due to pure laziness. I have plenty of people who visit wanting to drink our raw milk but I don't recommend it, I don't want to be responsible for people getting sick or worse.
We are even looking at putting in a pasteurizer to pasteurize the milk we feed our baby calves because it leads to better health and growth rates for them.
A2 milk currently has zero evidence behind the claims. All milk has a certain amount of the a2 gene in it anyway.
Even the a2 company no matter how hard they try can't manufacture up any evidence for it being any healthier. Their latest research showed no significant health difference, actually a slight benefit to a1 milk but somehow in their conclusion they concluded a2 was better.
If it tastes better it's probably just a higher fat milk and nothing to do with a2.
I'll just quietly leave this here…...
Ban unpasteurised toffee apples!!!!
"Five people have died and 21 more have been hospitalized after they were infected with listeria linked to prepackaged caramel apples, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Friday."
"Listeria can live in food processing plants and can grow even in cold temperatures, such as those in refrigerators.
It is killed by cooking and pasteurization. It is also found in soil and water and in animals such as poultry and cattle, and can be present in raw milk or food made from raw milk."
"Listeria outbreaks are rare but dangerous. In 2011, listeria in cantaloupes killed 33 people and sickened 147 in 28 states of America, according to the CDC.
In 2012, 22 people were infected and four died in an outbreak attributed to a brand of ricotta cheese imported from Italy, the agency said."
http://www.theage.com.au/world/five...-linked-to-toffee-apples-20141220-12bjku.html
This thread is about milk woody, milk, and you got most of the facts wrong with that last time anyway.
Goosey
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Its shocking isnt isn't it what these manufacturers can state, these days I just go by taste, if it tastes good it is. (Too me)
Good thinking.